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    Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
    He's not the heavyweight champion, his brother is.

    Lyle, Norton, Frazier, Ali, Morrison, Holyfield, Briggs, Young, Moorer, Cooney, Qawi - Top level.

    Fat Briggs, Sosnowski, old Lewis, Byrd, Arreola, Solis, Gomez, Adamek - Not top level.

    It's as simple as that. I'm not even going to discuss this with someone like yourself claiming to be in his 40s (we laughed a lot at your expense) because you don't have the faintest clue about what makes a good fighter.
    Lewis is not top level?
    Lewis is probably at least top 3 ATG HW
    p.s. Lewis wasn't old, he was 37, like Wlad is right now, like Floyd is right now and 13 years younger then Hopkins and around 6 years younger then current Vitaly who is still HW champ.
    (old) Foreman would never dare to fight Lennox.

    lol at your list of "not top level" fighters. Cooney and Qawi would get killed by most of them, but they are top lol, 37 year old Lennox would destroy your "top level" with ease. Even Ali, who became stationary at the time.

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      Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
      Look at that end of gut.
      is that a joke?

      look at pro-bodybuilders, they all have gut and 5 percent body fat.

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        Originally posted by A_Jeffrey View Post
        Lewis is not top level?
        Lewis is probably at least top 3 ATG HW
        p.s. Lewis wasn't old, he was 37, like Wlad is right now, like Floyd is right now and 13 years younger then Hopkins and around 6 years younger then current Vitaly who is still HW champ.
        (old) Foreman would never dare to fight Lennox.

        lol at your list of "not top level" fighters. Cooney and Qawi would get killed by most of them, but they are top lol, 37 year old Lennox would destroy your "top level" with ease. Even Ali, who became stationary at the time.
        He's either trolling or just really ****** if he's saying those versions of Cooney or Qawi were top level. Old Briggs would've knocked that Cooney out.

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          Originally posted by Cardinal Buck View Post
          He's either trolling or just really ****** if he's saying those versions of Cooney or Qawi were top level. Old Briggs would've knocked that Cooney out.
          That guy will do anything to discredit the Klitschko's and make himself be able to ride the ****s of 'knowledgable, old timers' like Poet, JAB, etc.. He's a fanboy. Shouldn't take him serious guys.
          Last edited by Weltschmerz; 10-31-2013, 01:49 AM.

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            Originally posted by Cardinal Buck View Post
            I'll ask you a series of basic questions, and we'll see if your li'l simple minded ass can get back on track since you seem to be implying that a man takes punches worse with an extra 25 pounds of muscle.

            1. Are we talking about what stages of Briggs' career he displayed his best punch resistance in or are we defining his fighting prime?

            2. Was Briggs stopped by Wilson and practically out on his feet against Botha in the 90s?

            3. Was Briggs ever in danger of being stopped by anyone other than Vitali Klitschko after bulking up in the early 2000s?

            I'll wait for you like the gentleman that I am.
            1) We are defining his prime. Who cares if he showed better punch resistance? That doesn't matter. He gained so much muscle with age, and fat, it severely hampered his stamina which was already poor due to his asthma problems.

            2) Are you trying to say 2010 Briggs was better than 90's Briggs? lol lol lol. He was cut and oozy against Botha, but didn't go down. The guy had fought 4 rounds against journeymen in 3 years when meeting Vitali. It was one of the biggest jokes of a fight ever, only topped by some of Wlad's recent defenses.

            3) lol, who did he fight? And yes he was. Go back to Liakhovich fight.

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              Originally posted by A_Jeffrey View Post
              Lewis is not top level?
              Lewis is probably at least top 3 ATG HW
              p.s. Lewis wasn't old, he was 37, like Wlad is right now, like Floyd is right now and 13 years younger then Hopkins and around 6 years younger then current Vitaly who is still HW champ.
              (old) Foreman would never dare to fight Lennox.

              lol at your list of "not top level" fighters. Cooney and Qawi would get killed by most of them, but they are top lol, 37 year old Lennox would destroy your "top level" with ease. Even Ali, who became stationary at the time.
              Originally posted by A_Jeffrey View Post
              is that a joke?

              look at pro-bodybuilders, they all have gut and 5 percent body fat.
              Yes Lewis is top level. The Lewis Vitali fought was still top level, though not as good as he should be - no fault of Vitali's. You saw what happened in the fight. Vitali got his face smashed. People age differently you moron. It's the same as saying Ali should have been fit and healthy to fight against Holmes at 38 because that's how old Wlad is.

              Here's news for you my friend, neither Vitali or Wladimir are fighting Larry Holmes' or anything remotely similar to a prime Vitali Klitschko. they are fighting Charrs and Pianetas and Mormecks and Wachs.

              Other than Lewis, who is top level on Vitali's resume? Who has 3 good wins? I'll wait.

              The fact you bring up bodybuilding, just shows how incredibly little you would know about a boxer's physique. that is quite literally one of the worst physiques you could ever hope to have in a boxing ring.

              Originally posted by Weltschmerz View Post
              That guy will do anything to discredit the Klitschko's and make himself be able to ride the ****s of 'knowledgable, old timers' like Poet, JAB, etc.. He's a fanboy. Shouldn't take him serious guys.
              Listen son, it's cute that you and your alts have a conversation with yourself and you are trying to make me look like the troll, but in fact, I'm willing to bet that everyone on this site, of course bar your Klitschko fanboy team, would think I add more to this forum than you do.

              So enjoy your little club of tea and biscuits and Klitschko talk - because outside of these threads - everybody thinks you and your pals are morons.

              Happy day.

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                Originally posted by Cardinal Buck View Post
                He's either trolling or just really ****** if he's saying those versions of Cooney or Qawi were top level. Old Briggs would've knocked that Cooney out.
                That's what you picked up on, Ha.

                Let me ask you, has Vitali fought better competition than Foreman?

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                  Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                  Yes Lewis is top level. The Lewis Vitali fought was still top level, though not as good as he should be - no fault of Vitali's. You saw what happened in the fight. Vitali got his face smashed. People age differently you moron. It's the same as saying Ali should have been fit and healthy to fight against Holmes at 38 because that's how old Wlad is.

                  Here's news for you my friend, neither Vitali or Wladimir are fighting Larry Holmes' or anything remotely similar to a prime Vitali Klitschko. they are fighting Charrs and Pianetas and Mormecks and Wachs.

                  Other than Lewis, who is top level on Vitali's resume? Who has 3 good wins? I'll wait.

                  The fact you bring up bodybuilding, just shows how incredibly little you would know about a boxer's physique. that is quite literally one of the worst physiques you could ever hope to have in a boxing ring.



                  Listen son, it's cute that you and your alts have a conversation with yourself and you are trying to make me look like the troll, but in fact, I'm willing to bet that everyone on this site, of course bar your Klitschko fanboy team, would think I add more to this forum than you do.

                  So enjoy your little club of tea and biscuits and Klitschko talk - because outside of these threads - everybody thinks you and your pals are morons.

                  Happy day.
                  You spend most your time here discrediting the Klitschko's, must suck having such a negative agenda every day of your life

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                    I see Foreman missing a lot of his hooks, not moving his head enough and taking some big big big counter shots. Vitali would be a 65-35 favourite in my opinion.

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                      Originally posted by Weltschmerz View Post
                      You spend most your time here discrediting the Klitschko's, must suck having such a negative agenda every day of your life
                      I've said it more than a thousand times : the guy is completely frustrated with the Klitschkos.

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