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    #51
    Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
    That reminds me, I asked you in that abomination of another thread whether you thought Marquez was an ATG or not. It got lost somewhere in the ****-stack

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      #52
      Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
      ***** you got me.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Capaedia View Post
        That reminds me, I asked you in that abomination of another thread whether you thought Marquez was an ATG or not. It got lost somewhere in the ****-stack
        I think he is a lower-tier ATG. But, an ATG regardless. I think he was borderline pre the third Pac fight. But, I thought he beat Pac the third time. So to me personally that solidified his ATG status. Considering how all the odds were stacked against him going in.

        I don't think I gave credit for Floyd for that win right? It just slipped my mind that they fought. That was my mistake.

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          #54
          Let Pacman retires first, and then post this thread.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
            I think he is a lower-tier ATG. But, an ATG regardless. I think he was borderline pre the third Pac fight. But, I thought he beat Pac the third time. So to me personally that solidified his ATG status. Considering how all the odds were stacked against him going in.

            I don't think I gave credit for Floyd for that win right? It just slipped my mind that they fought. That was my mistake.
            Correct. I was just curious, I don't think it compares to the Nelson win

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              #56
              Originally posted by Mannie Phresh View Post
              ***** you got me.
              Don't be made cuz' 10 years from now Pac would have beaten more HOF'ers(actual inductees) than Leonard

              Like Larry said, facts are facts.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Capaedia View Post
                Correct. I was just curious, I don't think it compares to the Nelson win
                I agree sir.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
                  Don't be made cuz' 10 years from now Pac would have beaten more HOF'ers(actual inductees) than Leonard

                  Like Larry said, facts are facts.
                  Context is so under rated.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
                    Pac world champs defeated.

                    Sasakul
                    Ledwaba
                    Barrera
                    Marquez(2x)
                    Mosley
                    Margarito
                    Cotto
                    Hatton
                    Diaz
                    Clottey
                    De la Hoya
                    Larios
                    Julio
                    Morales(2x)

                    That's 14 World champions

                    Leonard World champs defeated

                    Muņiz
                    Benitez
                    Duran(2x)
                    Hearns(2x)
                    Kalule
                    Hagler
                    Lalonde

                    That's 7 World champs.

                    On paper Pac has beaten double the World champs than Leonard has.

                    P4P ranked fighters that Pac defeated.(ring ****zine.

                    Barrera
                    Morales
                    Marquez
                    Cotto

                    Leonard defeated (KO ****zine)

                    Benitez
                    Duran
                    Hearns
                    Hagler

                    Pac title fights wins equals 15.

                    Leonard title fights wins equals 11.

                    Not counting lineal championships, and divisional titles.

                    This proves on paper. That Pac is greater than Leonard.

                    So therefor in reality it's close.
                    You know people are actually gonna run with this now...

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Mannie Phresh View Post
                      Context is so under rated.
                      No doubt sir.

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