Comments Thread For: Mayweather To Pacquiao: No 50-50 and I'm Not Budging!

[er7vill24]

can you blame the guy thou running the money team is damn expensive hes gotta support 100 nut huggers.

[edgarg]

He confirmed he was talking about the guarantees? When?

It's seems obvious to me that he was referring to the split.

Micheal Marley, who wrote the article also presumed he was referring to the split.

Even if it did refer to the guarantees, which only mean his minimum, what difference does it make? It's the actual split of the total take available for the main event which counts. Guarantees are like insurance policies, and only mean that even if the arenas collapse and the country suddenly goes into severe depression, the fighter still gets his minimum. These fighters are using them forpublicity and morale boosters. Also the amount (guarantee) paid on the night of the fight is the one reported to the Commission.

For many years as a hobby, I ran a New Orleans style Jazz Band. We were an attraction, and when we played for a money making event, I got a contractually stated minimum guarantee, plus an agreed percentage of the net, after legitimate stated expenses. If extraordinary expenses occurred, they could only be included if I accepted them, which i would do if I thought they were genuine and reasonable. This way, we were often "asked back".

[The Gambler1981]

I have both articles. Just forgot he already paid the 10. I take ownership when I misspeak. You don't seem to. Instead, you've been knit picking all my words trying to find even a small mistake.

Even AFTER paying a PAST DUE 10+ million to the IRS, he still needs to fight to make up for that kind of hit. Maybe, he was holding it knowing the IRS would come or maybe he thought the IRS wouldn't catch it. Then add another 3mil on top. That sucks!

I'm just glad I informed you that he does indeed have ongoing tax problems, which you were unaware of.

You came at me, not the other way around. You talked shit in your first responce name calling when you know nothing about me.

He makes a lot of money so he will owe a bunch in taxes and he had problems in the past so it is not like it is shocking that he would have some issues. I wouldn't call him oweing 3 million a major issue when he is about to make 30.

I also wouldn't call that a small mistake and you were the one on the high horse. Tax issues are only major if one can't cover them, if one can't then they are a real big problem. Floyd is fully capable of covering his problem currently.

You didn't think I would make you get off that high horse~ lol!!!!

[jbpanama]

can you blame the guy thou running the money team is damn expensive hes gotta support 100 nut huggers.

Making Offer U know will be Rejected=PUNKING OUT!!!

[edgarg]

You came at me, not the other way around. You talked shit in your first responce name calling when you know nothing about me.

He makes a lot of money so he will owe a bunch in taxes and he had problems in the past so it is not like it is shocking that he would have some issues. I wouldn't call him oweing 3 million a major issue when he is about to make 30.

I also wouldn't call that a small mistake and you were the one on the high horse. Tax issues are only major if one can't cover them, if one can't then they are a real big problem. Floyd is fully capable of covering his problem currently.

You didn't think I would make you get off that high horse~ lol!!!!

Excuse my butting in just this time only. Mayweather had the proceeds of one of his fights seized by the IRS a couple of years ago, for a debt of $7 1/2 mill. I think it may have been the Marquez fight, when at the same time, his one-room one-girl Mayweather Promotions office was evicted "onto the street". He was also being dunned for back house mortgage payments and I think one of his cars was repossessed. This was according to the report. As for the $30 mill purse, who knows what %age of that actually lands in his pocket, we only have his word for what he gets. And..... there'll be more taxes on that $30 mill. As for DP023accusing you of "knit picking" on every word....if you'd done that, you'd have zoomed in on the spelling of "nit" (baby louse) picking which he spelled "knit".

Did you know that the Mayweather Productions phone number was supposed to be unlisted, at least up to the last report I read a few months ago.

Just being "politically correct" here.

[straightleft]

Pac should pour 1 barrel of Hennessy on this dude and set him a light.

[4Corners]

Floyd averages more PPV's per fight than Manny, still should be 50-50, or at the very least 60-40/55-45.

I wonder what will happen when Mayweather-Cotto sells way more than Pac-Bradley and Pac-Cotto did. It'll just be interesting to hear what people say if that happens. Marquez is the only guy Pac has out sold Floyd on. Floyd doubled what Pac did with Oscar, sold well over 50K more with Hatton and shattered the Sky Sports PPV record, sold 100K more with Mosley, and sold 100K more with Ortiz than Pac did with Margarito. Pac sold 1.4 with Marquez, who Floyd sold 1.1 with, but it's very different circumstances going into each fight. Prior to fighting Floyd, the largest PPV JMM was on was with Pac, that did like 400-500K or something like that. When he did 1.1 million with Marquez, it was a huge accomplishment. If Mayweather-Cotto sells more than Pac-Cotto (1.25 million), and especially if it does 1.4+, it'll be interesting to hear what people say.

Still, I've given up on this fight. Pac was to blame for refusing testing for over 2 years. Floyd is to blame for backing off on the 50-50 split they agreed to back in 2010. And Pac f**ked himself by saying he'd take a lesser split to ensure it happens. We need to stop forgetting that Bob Arum himself still said, after Floyd said no 50-50, that even if they agreed to 50-50 that it can't happen in May 2012 because Manny's cut and his stadium wouldn't be ready.

So I'm at a point where I'm like f**k it, who cares??? No one will talk about it if one of them loses and most think Pac should have lost last November anyway. That killed the fight for most people.

[TheNorth]

this might back fire on floyd, if pac loses to bradley or he retires after the fight he can say good bye to all the money they could of made for both themselves and the boxing world

[edgarg]

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No he didn't say that... all you're doing is confusing semantics with what's actually been said. He'd take the lesser share. If each fighter stands to make $50 million [at least], what's the issue with $40 million, considering guy stated he'd take the lesser share to make the fight happen.

Still hasn't even signed on the dotted line for testing.

The "issue" would be $10 mill. which is a huge cut of the amount. Enough to secure 50-100 families for lifetime in the Philippines. Simple arithmetic.

[The Gambler1981]

Excuse my butting in just this time only. Mayweather had the proceeds of one of his fights seized by the IRS a couple of years ago, for a debt of $7 1/2 mill. I think it may have been the Marquez fight, when at the same time, his one-room one-girl Mayweather Promotions office was evicted "onto the street". He was also being dunned for back house mortgage payments and I think one of his cars was repossessed. This was according to the report. As for the $30 mill purse, who knows what %age of that actually lands in his pocket, we only have his word for what he gets. And..... there'll be more taxes on that $30 mill. As for DP023accusing you of "knit picking" on every word....if you'd done that, you'd have zoomed in on his spelling of the word "nit" (baby louse) as "knit"..

Just being "politically correct" here.

That was my whole point the first negotiations for this fight happened after the JMM fight, Floyd at the point was clearly in bad tax trouble so he did the JMM fight for very little take home he made a lot but it went to the IRS or Oscar/GBP who might have loaned him money to pay it.

So that Floyd agreed or was willing to do 50/50 because he clearly needed cash makes sense, him playing hardball for more (rightly or wrongly) when he is in much better shape makes sense to me also. It is a negotiation got to try and do the best possible, he clearly low balled Manny but I don't think the fight was in the cards anyway but I would hope all this talk about standing firm and not budging is just posturing because without a willingness to give there is no room to negotiate.

The ammount he would make against Cotto was just a guessimate, but he will clearly be able to cover the 3 he owes the IRS. Whatever the number is he has to pay his team and the IRS so his take home will be less. Who knows how well it will even do, it should do well but that is not certain.