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    #31
    Originally posted by bMak View Post
    How often have you seen Wlad really hit hard, stunned, or hurt, over the last 5-7 years. He does an excellent, apparently underrated, job of fighting tall behind his guard.

    Its a one dimensional defensive attribute which is only successful because of his physical attributes and the crappy era.

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      #32
      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

      Its a one dimensional defensive attribute which is only successful because of his physical attributes and the crappy era.
      Whatever you feel it is, these guys can't reach him with anything. I refuse to penalize the guy for being too big and knowing how to use that size to his advantage. He rarely gets hit flush. Dimentrenko is about as big as he is- Eddie Chambers found him much more often than he was able to find Wlad.

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        #33
        Vitali

        Power 9
        Physical attributes 10
        Hand speed 8
        Footwork 8
        Defense 9
        Durability 10
        Heart 9
        Killer instinct 10
        Endurance 9
        Ring generalship 9

        Total points 91

        Wladimir

        Power 10
        Physical attributes 10
        Hand speed 10
        Footwork 10
        Defense 9
        Durability 8
        Heart 9
        Killer instinct 9
        Endurance 9
        Ring generalship 10

        Total points 94

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          #34
          Originally posted by bMak View Post
          Whatever you feel it is, these guys can't reach him with anything. I refuse to penalize the guy for being too big and knowing how to use that size to his advantage. He rarely gets hit flush. Dimentrenko is about as big as he is- Eddie Chambers found him much more often than he was able to find Wlad.
          It works for him and thats fine. My point is though he is average defensively, he doesn't have other skills to fall back on when a decent fighter comes along and can get to him. He doesn't parry, block or slip punches. In other words his defensive capabilities are limited.

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            #35
            Manny Pacquiao

            Power 9
            Physical attributes 7
            Hand speed 10
            Footwork 6
            Defense 7
            Durability 10
            Heart 9
            Killer instinct 9
            Endurance 10
            Ring generalship 8

            Total points 85

            As much as I want to give him a 10 for killer instinct, just based on his style, I can't after his last four fights, especially the last two.

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              #36
              Mayweather

              Power 8
              Physical attributes 10
              Hand speed 9
              Footwork 9
              Defense 9
              Durability 7
              Heart 8
              Killer instinct 7
              Endurance 9
              Ring generalship 9

              Total points 85

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                #37
                Originally posted by Someone88 View Post
                Vitali

                Power 9
                Physical attributes 10
                Hand speed 8
                Footwork 8
                Defense 9
                Durability 10
                Heart 9
                Killer instinct 10
                Endurance 9
                Ring generalship 9

                Total points 91

                Wladimir

                Power 10
                Physical attributes 10
                Hand speed 10
                Footwork 10
                Defense 9
                Durability 8
                Heart 9
                Killer instinct 9
                Endurance 9
                Ring generalship 10

                Total points 94
                Your rankings are ridiculous over all, but I have to say Vitaly ranking a 9 in the "heart" department particularly tales the cake. This is a guy who quit in a fight he couldn't lose on the score cards to a feather fisted heavyweight he outweighed by 40lbs.

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                  #38
                  Pacquiao

                  Power 10
                  Physical attributes 10
                  Hand speed 10
                  Footwork 9
                  Defense 8
                  Durability 10
                  Heart 10
                  Killer instinct 9
                  Endurance 10
                  Ring generalship 8

                  Total- 94

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                    It works for him and thats fine. My point is though he is average defensively, he doesn't have other skills to fall back on when a decent fighter comes along and can get to him. He doesn't parry, block or slip punches. In other words his defensive capabilities are limited.
                    Agree to disagree. We don't know what else he has, for sure, because it hasn't been tested. For now, he does all he has to do. I'd rather have a fighter be A+ at leaning back/controlling distance, and not be able to do anything else, than a fighter whose solid at slipping/blocking/parrying but not great at any one aspect.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                      Your rankings are ridiculous over all, but I have to say Vitaly ranking a 9 in the "heart" department particularly tales the cake. This is a guy who quit in a fight he couldn't lose on the score cards to a feather fisted heavyweight he outweighed by 40lbs.
                      I was about to tell you these are good threads before you teased me, but I said it anyway good threads. Look at the shots Vitali took from Lewis and against Chisora he hurt his arm and kept fighting, also what's wrong with the other ratings Vitali and Wladimir should be rated very higly

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