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    #41
    Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
    What I find interesting is how everyone seems to forget the Shane Mosley fight. Floyd was clearly the aggressor in that fight, despite the fact that Mosley was the bigger fighter on fight night (just like Ortiz was). Mosley was at least 10 lbs bigger than Floyd on fight night. And yet, it was Floyd that was walking Mosley down. Even his infamous hater Larry Merchant said that Floyd was the aggressor in the fight. That fight went 12 rounds.

    If Floyd can be the aggressor with a guy who arguably has a harder punch and is definitely faster, what do you think he's going to do with Cotto? He will do the same thing!

    I mean, he just did the same thing with Ortiz who was also bigger. And Ortiz is YOUNGER than Cotto! It should be quite obvious that being aggressive with Cotto for 12 rounds will not be an issue for Floyd given his recent opponents.
    Thank you!!!! I was posting this a few days ago... And dont forget Ortiz is also faster than cotto and moves better. Comes in around 160+ too. In all honesty cotto might lose a fight to Ortiz. I wouldnt be surprised one bit. Cotto is about to get whooped up real good and hes gonna look bad at that. You saw his face after margarito?? And margarito is a plodder and as slow as they come....

    Now hes fighting FLOYD!!!!

    This is gonna be ugly. He has a punchers chance, and I damn sho wont be betting on COTTO...LMAO

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      #42
      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
      When Floyd Mayweather Jr prepared to fight Victor Ortiz last year, he vowed he wouldn’t move and would stay in the pocket and trade with Ortiz. To his credit, that’s exactly what he did and even though the fight only lasted four rounds, Floyd was pretty offensive and was even the aggressor at times.

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      It's better have a controversal victory with a future HOF like JM MARQUEZ than a controversal victory with JL CASTILLO!!!

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        #43
        This fight is the worst.

        Floyd stops Cotto in 6. All Cotto can do now is throw a few punches and backup and then backup again. He won't be able to match Floyd's speed and will become a punching bag by round 4.

        The only drama will be when Cotto's wife runs out of the arena because Cotto's face is a mess.

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          #44
          fight manny you punk!!

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            #45
            Originally posted by mathed View Post
            Not really. Ortiz was being the aggressor against Floyd.....don't really know what people think was going to happen in that fight had it continued but I saw Floyd getting pushed into the ropes on a consistent basis and eating more punches that he had in his last 4 fights combined. Look people, mad or not about a headbutt attempt, Floyd would not have seized that opportunity to sucker punch Ortiz had he truly been in control of that fight. He did it to get Ortiz out of the mix while he could because he was not liking the way the fight was going.

            Mosley has declined to a vast degree and I'm not sure why but he is ultra trigger shy while Cotto has evolved his offense to include more movement at the same time remaining just as offensive as he was in years past.

            Cotto is a far more developed boxer than Ortiz is and he has great combinations on the inside. Floyd is a distance fighter from the jump so trying to **** it out with a short armed fighter on the inside is going to be a nightmare for him based on the physics of the situation alone, not even looking at the specifics of each fighter's capabilities.

            Floyd will try to be aggressive but Cotto hits hard....I'd say just as hard as Mosley does and he is a much better boxer than Mosley is. Cotto, although battered by Pac, still managed to have Pac's face a swollen mess the next day and busted his ear drum.
            Great point. Win or lose, Floyd ain't gonna look that pretty at the end IF he tries to be the aggressor.
            Last edited by Mayabang; 03-03-2012, 12:13 PM.

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              #46
              Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
              When Floyd Mayweather Jr prepared to fight Victor Ortiz last year, he vowed he wouldn’t move and would stay in the pocket and trade with Ortiz. To his credit, that’s exactly what he did and even though the fight only lasted four rounds, Floyd was pretty offensive and was even the aggressor at times.

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              Cotto's shots are too wide that's why Floyd will be fighting inside. Cotto wont be able to take the heat,he will be overwhelmed and confused. Great fight while it lasts

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                #47
                Originally posted by mathed View Post
                Not really. Ortiz was being the aggressor against Floyd.....don't really know what people think was going to happen in that fight had it continued but I saw Floyd getting pushed into the ropes on a consistent basis and eating more punches that he had in his last 4 fights combined. Look people, mad or not about a headbutt attempt, Floyd would not have seized that opportunity to sucker punch Ortiz had he truly been in control of that fight. He did it to get Ortiz out of the mix while he could because he was not liking the way the fight was going.

                Mosley has declined to a vast degree and I'm not sure why but he is ultra trigger shy while Cotto has evolved his offense to include more movement at the same time remaining just as offensive as he was in years past.

                Cotto is a far more developed boxer than Ortiz is and he has great combinations on the inside. Floyd is a distance fighter from the jump so trying to **** it out with a short armed fighter on the inside is going to be a nightmare for him based on the physics of the situation alone, not even looking at the specifics of each fighter's capabilities.

                Floyd will try to be aggressive but Cotto hits hard....I'd say just as hard as Mosley does and he is a much better boxer than Mosley is. Cotto, although battered by Pac, still managed to have Pac's face a swollen mess the next day and busted his ear drum.
                Did you miss the Gatti and Mosley fights.. Or are you saying he didn't have control then either? When a fighter makes a mistake, he capitalizes on it. I don't know how many times Roy says that when commentating Floyd's fights.

                But come on man, no matter how you or anyone had the fight going into the 4th round, history has it that Floyd picks it up after 4 to dominate. They didn't even make it out of the 4th...

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by mathed View Post
                  Not really. Ortiz was being the aggressor against Floyd.....don't really know what people think was going to happen in that fight had it continued but I saw Floyd getting pushed into the ropes on a consistent basis and eating more punches that he had in his last 4 fights combined. Look people, mad or not about a headbutt attempt, Floyd would not have seized that opportunity to sucker punch Ortiz had he truly been in control of that fight. He did it to get Ortiz out of the mix while he could because he was not liking the way the fight was going.

                  Mosley has declined to a vast degree and I'm not sure why but he is ultra trigger shy while Cotto has evolved his offense to include more movement at the same time remaining just as offensive as he was in years past.

                  Cotto is a far more developed boxer than Ortiz is and he has great combinations on the inside. Floyd is a distance fighter from the jump so trying to **** it out with a short armed fighter on the inside is going to be a nightmare for him based on the physics of the situation alone, not even looking at the specifics of each fighter's capabilities.

                  Floyd will try to be aggressive but Cotto hits hard....I'd say just as hard as Mosley does and he is a much better boxer than Mosley is. Cotto, although battered by Pac, still managed to have Pac's face a swollen mess the next day and busted his ear drum.
                  C'mon man. Ortiz surely had his agressive moments, but Floyd was the mian agressor int hat fight 75% of the time at least, and that fight wasn't all that competitive aside from a moment or two in the 2nd round and about 15-20 seconds in the 4th round.

                  Floyd did the EXACT SAME thing to Gatti and Mosley that he did to Ortiz. Only Ortiz looked at the ref after they embraced and Cortez said time in, instead of getting back to fighting, and he got knocked out. Mosley tried to tackle Floyd to the ground and Shane was perfectly content just talking instead of getting back to fighting and Floyd clocked him in return.

                  Was Floyd not in control when he did that to Gatti and Mosley???? He was, just like the Ortiz fight. Even the 2nd and 4th, Ortiz' only moments in the fight, he was out landed by a ton. I've never seen a guy get out landed as bad as Ortiz was getting out landed and have people say "Floyd wasn't in control of the fight".

                  And while I agree that Shane was past his prime in May 2010, it was a legit fight when it was made, and no one can argue that. After Floyd whupped Marquez, I remember Kellerman saying Shane Mosley should without a doubt be in the discussion for a mega fight with Floyd or Manny, after he knocked out Margarito. And I remember Arum and Roach saying Floyd would duck Shane because he was too much of a risk at that point. And I remember posters on this site saying Shane was going to be a problem for Floyd.

                  And as far as Floyd being on the ropes eating punches....are you serious??? That reminds me of the Floyd-Oscar fight where people would overreact to new levels anytime Floyd was on the ropes, regardless if the punches were landing or not. Even the last flurry by Ortiz before he headbutted Floyd, he landed 2, maybe 3, punches in that flurry. The rest completely missed or landed on Floyd's shoulders and arms, and then he tried to headbutt him out of frustration.

                  Floyd was in total control of that fight, aside from about a combined 1:00 of that fight, if that. I just don't see how you can win all 4 rounds, at the very least 3 rounds, and not like how the fight is going. Victor never had Floyd seriously hurt at all, sorry. Before the headbutt, when people say Ortiz had Floyd really hurt, Floyd was avoiding punches and smiling at Ortiz, and than the headbutt happened. I've never seen a fighter out land his opponent by that much and have people say he wasn't in control of the fight.
                  Last edited by 4Corners; 03-03-2012, 12:31 PM.

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                    #49
                    New in boxing, a fighter tells the truth about his game plan, but wait, it doesn't make sense, aah ok ! Mayweather is trying to confuse Cotto with this, Cotto will think that Mayweather will be throwing 80 punch/rds, when in fact he won't, that must be tough to deal with, i guess...

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                      #50
                      floyd can be aggressive but very aggressive...no, just no. even against ortiz, yeah he stayed in the pocket but once ortiz landed he was retreating until he got his back on the ropes. same thing with this fight against cotto, he will show some aggression but once cotto lands a big one floyd will retreat and won't trade.

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