Comments Thread For: Team Pacquiao Fire at Mayweather; Talk Bradley, Cotto

[Teri]

Your funny in a sad way dude. Who is Manny fighting: A 140lb champ and who is Floyd fighting: A 154lb champ. Now tell me who's looking to fight smaller fighters? If I tell you to come outside and I'll kick your ass and you hide behind your promoter it's clear your a punk ass and you don't wanna fight me. End of story!!!!

Why are you arguing with them? They are ignoring all of your true facts and trolling that's it

[Sugar Q]

Why are you arguing with them? They are ignoring all of your true facts and trolling that's it

Your right, guess I'm reposting facts moreso than arguing because an idiot will never get it.

[S IP U IR S xII]

This is why i stopped defending Floyd.....45/45 with winner getting extra 10 is fair. Besides....if such easy work, than whats to lose? I just find it amazing that Floyd elitist are more concerned about winning a PR battle over twitter, as thats what they are all hell bent on. None of them think from a business standpoint, only the traditional "Pac camp lies, Floyd camp are honest Abe's".

If you are a TRUE fan than you acknowledge that Pac keeps trying to compromise while Floyd wants to give NONE. As for May 5th.....that would have been nice, but i knew it was a long shot. Ill be totally honest.....I want Floyd to lose now. Hes has thrown more wrenches and road blocks from making this fight happen. Now im sure the Floyd cheerleaders, will use the Roger logic...."you dont know **** about boxing" or "your just a ******* hater", but whatever...im not going to BS the story. Give me a break on who makes more......WHO CARES!?!?!?!? Morons....its about how much is generated not how much you make. If Pac makes $100 for the fight...WHO CARES?!?!?!!? Hes going to help generate MILLIONS that will only give Floyd the biggest payday of his career.....then again...i guess hes now Floyd "Moral" Mayweather, and no longer Floyd "Money" Mayweather.

Pac vs Bradley is looking like its going to happen, and thats a damn good fight. Floyd vs Cotto at 154...is an EVEN BETTER fight!!!!!! End of the day....both fighters are taking HUGE risks in their next fights, and i would not be surprised to see 1 of them lose (Pac more likely to lose than Floyd IMO). I hope they both lose so this fights dies once and for all, and all these morons who post the same conspiracy crap on how everyone is paid off by TR just go away with them.

(I await the same responses of "Get off so and so sack" , "You started watching boxing 2 years ago", and one my favorites..... "Your a clown. Pac just pulled the ultimate duck move")

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So you don't remember Marquez saying it was not the weight but the weight rise in the short space of time.

Marquez was much more adapted to the weight when he fought Pacquiao.

Excuses, excuses..... Manny didn't know this when he first wanted the fight to be at 144. Even Marquez said he wished that it was at 140 instead. Marquez just did his research and got with someone that can help him bulk up better but the whole reason for the 144 catch weight in favor of Pac was to capitalize off of how Marquez looked against Floyd. Ariza, Roach and the rest of team Pac was talking about how Pac was going to annihilate Marquez and was surprised to see how the fight went down because they underestimated JMM. Hall of fame trainer my ass. Freddie trained Pac for Marquez two times before and would you think he knew this fight was going to be tough but he didn't because of how Marquez looked against Floyd. $h!t is so obvious but Pac die hard fans don't want to acknowledge or see it because they are groupie fan boys. I bet the JMM who fought Floyd would still give Pac problems because it is about the styles not weight.

[D4thincarnation]

Your funny in a sad way dude. Who is Manny fighting: A 140lb champ and who is Floyd fighting: A 154lb champ. Now tell me who's looking to fight smaller fighters? Isn't Rios being mentioned as an opponent for Many? If I tell you to come outside and I'll kick your ass and you hide behind your promoter it's clear your a punk ass and you don't wanna fight me. End of story!!!!

Pacquiao is a naturally smaller fighter, but still willing to fight Floyd who is a weight class bigger, but Floyd is scared of the smaller fighter.

Pacquiao is fighting a p4p top ten fighter, Floyd is not.

Floyd is all talk, when time for action, the excuses come out and he goes on vacation.

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If u consider 144 and 147 the same and god knows how much floyd weigh in on fight nite it could very well be close to 200 we will never know since Floyd refuse to weight himself on fight nite and by the way PAC fought Marquez twice already at his weight. Is a person suppose to stay with the same weight he fought before years later? Weren't u guys saying if PAC wants to fight cotto now it has to be at cotto's weight? Well the same apply to marquez. Nexxxxt! lol..

Hey man,you guys are the most excuse makers and givers on the face of the planet. Pac weighed in less than Marquez for their catch weight title fight so if the Floyd/Pac fight happens. would it be a mismatch if Floyd weighed more than Pac at 147? Fight wasn't a mismatch because of Floyd's size compared to Marquez but rather his skill. Dude came back after a year of being away from the sport to fight Marquez and people automatically screamed mismatch before they knew Floyd would come in over weight. Also, Marquez called out Floyd and agreed to move up. Floyd didn't call JMM out and make him move up against his will. JMM volunteered. Pac initiated all of his catch weight fights in his own favor. Floyd just couldn't make the weight. Pac could have made 140 for JMM because it was already on record that he was closer to 140 than 147. Dude just tried to capitalize off of Marquez's bad performance against Mayweather but in actuality, it wasn't a bad performance but rather he just was fighting Floyd. Marquez was winning impressively since him and Pac last fought in 08 until he fought Mayweather. All of the die hard Pac fans said Marquez was going to get beat up and down quick by Pac because all of you believed the hype. For Pac's fans to act like his catch weight fights are not his favor should listen to Roach instead of their groupie hearts.....

Roach said that though a “Mosley fight is probably the most exciting because they both like to fight,” it's all about making the fight on even terms.

"I have to protect my fighter,” said Roach, who administered the terms for Pacquiao and Oscar De La Hoya last year. “I spoke to Shane and told him that we would fight him at 142. He said he can’t make that weight.”

Mosley asked why not 147, as Manny/Oscar was set at 147? Roach said that Mosley is not De La Hoya in terms of setting a weight handicap.

[The_Sandman]

Yeah Maybe Floyd will fight Gamboa next, and the point was. You claim Floyd has never force fighters out of their weight division, he clearly has.


And who is putting up road blocks to the fight and moving the goalposts, it is not Pacquiao it is Mayweather.

Why is he so scared of Pacquiao?

It's not like Floyd used his size to overpower Marquez or anything. Trust me, if Floyd fought Marquez at 130 pounds, he would've still landed those same counter punches. Only difference is that he'd be quicker doing it.

And as for the whole ducking situation. It's not a coincidence that once Cotto left Arum, he was able to make the Mayweather fight happen...easily. Let's not pretend that it is.

If you want to talk about road blocks, then explain stadium, cuts, tournament, going back on the "I'll take less money".

I can understand you being a Pacquiao fan. Hell, I'm a Pacquiao fan. But what I can't understand is your hate for Floyd is to the point that you just won't see how Bob Arum is preventing this fight from happening. Look at the patterns. Arum can't do business with anyone.

With Bob Arum, Floyd vs Oscar didn't happen.
Without Bob Arum, Floyd vs Oscar happens.

With Bob Arum, Floyd vs Cotto didn't happen.
Without Bob Arum, Floyd vs Cotto happens.

With Bob Arum, Floyd vs Manny doesn't happen.
Without Bob Arum.....

I'll let you finish.

It's also no surprise that Shane Mosley couldn't even get a Pacquiao fight til he left Golden Boy.

I mean, to a normal person, this isn't coincidence.

[PACsmash]

Hey man,you guys are the most excuse makers and givers on the face of the planet. Pac weighed in less than Marquez for their catch weight title fight so if the Floyd/Pac fight happens. would it be a mismatch if Floyd weighed more than Pac at 147? Fight wasn't a mismatch because of Floyd's size compared to Marquez but rather his skill. Dude came back after a year of being away from the sport to fight Marquez and people automatically screamed mismatch before they knew Floyd would come in over weight. Also, Marquez called out Floyd and agreed to move up. Floyd didn't call JMM out and make him move up against his will. JMM volunteered. Pac initiated all of his catch weight fights in his own favor. Floyd just couldn't make the weight. Pac could have made 140 for JMM because it was already on record that he was closer to 140 than 147. Dude just tried to capitalize off of Marquez's bad performance against Mayweather but in actuality, it wasn't a bad performance but rather he just was fighting Floyd. Marquez was winning impressively since him and Pac last fought in 08 until he fought Mayweather. All of the die hard Pac fans said Marquez was going to get beat up and down quick by Pac because all of you believed the hype. For Pac's fans to act like his catch weight fights are not his favor should listen to Roach instead of their groupie hearts.....

Damm bro u done write up a whole story lol usually when u have to write a full page of your explanation then it's usuall wrong lol.. I have never seen anyone trying to defend their stance by writing a damm page long reply. I was just correcting ur buddy that Floyd vs. marquez was At 147 and not 144 and that Floyd's fight nite weight was unknown. Am I making this stuff up? If u reply please keep it short I ain't about to sit here and read all of that.

[D4thincarnation]

It's not like Floyd used his size to overpower Marquez or anything. Trust me, if Floyd fought Marquez at 130 pounds, he would've still landed those same counter punches. Only difference is that he'd be quicker doing it.

And as for the whole ducking situation. It's not a coincidence that once Cotto left Arum, he was able to make the Mayweather fight happen...easily. Let's not pretend that it is.

If you want to talk about road blocks, then explain stadium, cuts, tournament, going back on the "I'll take less money".

I can understand you being a Pacquiao fan. Hell, I'm a Pacquiao fan. But what I can't understand is your hate for Floyd is to the point that you just won't see how Bob Arum is preventing this fight from happening. Look at the patterns. Arum can't do business with anyone.

With Bob Arum, Floyd vs Oscar didn't happen.
Without Bob Arum, Floyd vs Oscar happens.

With Bob Arum, Floyd vs Cotto didn't happen.
Without Bob Arum, Floyd vs Cotto happens.

With Bob Arum, Floyd vs Manny doesn't happen.
Without Bob Arum.....

I'll let you finish.

It's also no surprise that Shane Mosley couldn't even get a Pacquiao fight til he left Golden Boy.

I mean, to a normal person, this isn't coincidence.

Bob Arum didn't need a warm up fight
Bob Arum didn't ask for blood test.
Bob Arum did say 14 days were ok then take it off the table when Pacquiao came beyond that mark.
Bob Arum didn't go on vacation for a year or two once everything was agreed.
Bob Arum didn't need yet another warm up fight.
Bob Arum didn't move the goal posts over the 50/50 split and only offer a flat rate for what will be the biggest grossing fight in history.

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Pacquiao is a naturally smaller fighter, but still willing to fight Floyd who is a weight class bigger, but Floyd is scared of the smaller fighter.

Pacquiao is fighting a p4p top ten fighter, Floyd is not.

Floyd is all talk, when time for action, the excuses come out and he goes on vacation.

They are both champions in the WW division. Pacquiao is fighting a JWW when he is a WW and Floyd is a WW fighting a JMW with no catch weight. I wonder if the Bradley/Pac fight will be at a catch weight. Pac don't want to move up to make it fair and he doesn't want to move down to make it fair? And this guy is supposed to be fighter of the decade? Seriously?

Like giving blood weakens me and I'm scared of needles and since Floyd is bigger I can't give blood because I'm smaller? Damn man! I'm not even on Floyd's side either because he should have pulled these guys cards years ago when Arum was talking about all these other negotiations and deals through the media but Floyd didn't,so the blame is on him as well because if he wanted to fight he would have spoke up a long time ago but to his credit he was willing to fight 2 years ago but Pac wasn't because of random blood being given too close to the fight.

Why did it take Pac two years to finally say OK. Also, why did he agree to take less money and then act like it was ludicrous for Floyd to ask for more than 50%? In my point of view both of these guys have huge egos and don't really care about fighting each other at this point but at the end of the day. Pac and Arum are not blameless. so many lies, excuses and contradictions in and through the media. how can you say Floyd is the only one not willing to fight? Pac set himself up by saying he would take lesser money to make the fight happen to only back slide when Floyd called him on the phone. Floyd should have just said OK to 50% and continuing pushing for the fight. Arum don't want it though. Arum says, late May, November...... stop being so damn gullible.