I think we can all agree, Mayweather-Canelo > Pacquiao-Bradley.

[Bushbaby]

Is he better in either area than Manny, I don't think so.

Bradley is a bit different in what he is good at than Manny recent opposition but his offense is not really a threat to Manny and his defense isn't that great better than most guys Manny has fought but he throws a bunch of wild shots and leaves him self open to much to really praise him defensively.

I don't think he gives him trouble at all, he may make it ugly dragging the fight into the mud but even if Manny can't land clean he will land and throw more which pretty much means he will win.

You are right about the end part though even if I am wrong he ain't winning, I can't like the fight feeling like that.

I was talking about 2 area specifically. Stamina & speed. I believe Bradley has better stamina. Pacman hasn't fought a man that can match his intensity in some time.

Meanwhile Bradley has already soundly outboxed 2 very good boxers in Peterson & Alexander.

Bradley knows how to move & box. He isn't old, nor shot, not a lightweight. His team prepares him well. While Manny starts to fight like he's stuck in cement when his opponent doesn't just stand in front of him, Bradley adapts & adjust as the fight goes on.

Movement made Manny look ordinary against a shot a$$ Mosley. A small lightweight boxed Manny's ears off. Bradley can move, he can pull the trigger & he has the stamina to do it for 20 rounds. Pacman's punch output drops dramatically when you don't stand in front of him. It does not take power to beat Pacman, it takes ring smarts Bradley has that.

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I have to agree with the most, Bradley>Canelo. Both fights aren't great but the Canelo fight is laughable. This coming from someone who hasn't minded any of Floyds choices as of late.

[The Gambler1981]

I was talking about 2 area specifically. Stamina & speed. I believe Bradley has better stamina. Pacman hasn't fought a man that can match his intensity in some time.

Meanwhile Bradley has already soundly outboxed 2 very good boxers in Peterson & Alexander.

Bradley knows how to move & box. He isn't old, nor shot, not a lightweight. His team prepares him well. While Manny starts to fight like he's stuck in cement when his opponent doesn't just stand in front of him, Bradley adapts & adjust as the fight goes on.

Movement made Manny look ordinary against a shot a$$ Mosley. A small lightweight boxed Manny's ears off. Bradley can move, he can pull the trigger & he has the stamina to do it for 20 rounds. Pacman's punch output drops dramatically when you don't stand in front of him. It does not take power to beat Pacman, it takes ring smarts Bradley has that.

I know you didn't mean speed and just miswrote because we were talking strength and stamina. I guess it can be debated but strength and stamina are both something Manny is also good at and going at his strengths matching them head on is to me a losing battle for Bradley.

I wouldn't call those very good boxers, although I guess that depends on your definition, not to say they aren't good fighters or boxers as they do have positive attributes but I don't think those guys are really getting you ready to face Manny. I guess no one can really do that but what he showed in those fights doesn't say to me this guy can beat Manny.

I don't think moving is Bradley's strength or that he is good enough at it to do enough to win the fight like that. He can do enough to not get whooped up on and enough to make Manny look ordinery but needs to do more than that to win in the end.

I like Bradley he is a good fighter who has a lot of positives and honestly I have no issue with him getting a shot to prove his worth on this level. I just don't think he has it in him to win and like we agree on even if he did he still isn't winning~

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*****s are trollin hard!

[Bushbaby]

I know you didn't mean speed and just miswrote because we were talking strength and stamina. I guess it can be debated but strength and stamina are both something Manny is also good at and going at his strengths matching them head on is to me a losing battle for Bradley.

I wouldn't call those very good boxers, although I guess that depends on your definition, not to say they aren't good fighters or boxers as they do have positive attributes but I don't think those guys are really getting you ready to face Manny. I guess no one can really do that but what he showed in those fights doesn't say to me this guy can beat Manny.

I don't think moving is Bradley's strength or that he is good enough at it to do enough to win the fight like that. He can do enough to not get whooped up on and enough to make Manny look ordinery but needs to do more than that to win in the end.

I like Bradley he is a good fighter who has a lot of positives and honestly I have no issue with him getting a shot to prove his worth on this level. I jsut don't think he has it in him to win

Yeah, the funny thing that I find in your post is the ready to face Manny thing.

See Pacman fought a stiff named Margarito, a shot Mosley and a small lightweight,(who 90% of the boxing comunity thought won). I just don't think those guys pepared Manny for a fighter just as fast, younger & with more stamina than him.

Pacman has lost a step or 2, maybe more. He looked frustrated & tired against a small Marquez. Bradley is faster & stronger than Marquez. His stamina may be the best in the game. His team prepares him well. He listens & applies that knowledge on the fly, 1 minute between rounds.

Meanwhile Roach tells Pacman he needs a ko to win & he goes out there & does the same thing over & over. You will see Pacman get soundly dominated on points & watch yet another robbery back to back.

[caveez]

felon floyd managed to duck both cotto and money pac at the same time. he set the date, place and could pick his opponent yet the woman beater took the easiest fight with a stablemate. all he cares about is raping money off the cinco de mayo holiday and avoiding any real competition. he'll "meat" his match when he hits the slammer and gets slammed by a man fan named sammy.

[Deevel916]

It doesnt help Floyd's case being that he went on the record and stated "I'm not trying to fight Canelo. They'll say he doesnt have enough experience"

Floyd himself acknowledges that Canelo is still a bit green.

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Let's face, Canelo coming off a great knock out victory of Kermit Cintron,
Who ain't exactly a walkover.

Bradly struggled with an old ass Casamayor.

Mayweather-Canelo will be a war as Floyd continues to fight the very best in the business,
While Manny just fights nobodies and lines Arums pockets.

Floyd is the true P4P king.

jesus christ...... Now I've seen it all

[tdubb]

felon floyd managed to duck both cotto and money pac at the same time. he set the date, place and could pick his opponent yet the woman beater took the easiest fight with a stablemate. all he cares about is raping money off the cinco de mayo holiday and avoiding any real competition. he'll "meat" his match when he hits the slammer and gets slammed by a man fan named sammy.

Yup... the *****s are actually ****** enough to buy his shytt PPV bouts. I mean look at this thread starter.

[The Gambler1981]

Yeah, the funny thing that I find in your post is the ready to face Manny thing.

See Pacman fought a stiff named Margarito, a shot Mosley and a small lightweight,(who 90% of the boxing comunity thought won). I just don't think those guys pepared Manny for a fighter just as fast, younger & with more stamina than him.

Pacman has lost a step or 2, maybe more. He looked frustrated & tired against a small Marquez. Bradley is faster & stronger than Marquez. His stamina may be the best in the game. His team prepares him well. He listens & applies that knowledge on the fly, 1 minute between rounds.

Meanwhile Roach tells Pacman he needs a ko to win & he goes out there & does the same thing over & over. You will see Pacman get soundly dominated on points & watch yet another robbery back to back.

Like I said I am not agianst the fight, I can't disagree that it is better than recent fights minus the JMM fight. I don't disagree with what you are saying Manny's issues are either.

I disagree that he can be more effective than JMM was though as I dont think he is the more skilled fighter and I don't think you can be more prepared or ready than JMM was that night. I thought that fight was pretty close.

I like Bradley I really do but I think you are greatly overblowing him based on what I have seen from him against alright opposition.

Maybe I am wrong who knows, but I just don't see enough bullets in his gun to deal with Manny or a heavy enough caliber. We will see who is proven out right though.