Comments Thread For: Photos: Kelly Pavlik Training Hard With Garcia For Return

[SpeedKillz]

proud to be and always have been a Kelly Pavlik supporter. Lets go Kelly and regain that fame and pride!

[Mr. Invincible]

The sad part is that you're thick and ignorant enough to actually believe that

It's sad that you don't believe it after reading this thread. Prove me wrong you mong.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

It's sad that you don't believe it after reading this thread. Prove me wrong you mong.

I dont think anyone has agreed with you that Jermain beat Hopkins using Ring IQ

[Mr. Invincible]

i dont think anyone has agreed with you that jermain beat hopkins using ring iq

so who agrees with you exactly?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

so who agrees with you exactly?

Agrees with me on what? I really don't care who agrees with me. Someone who has to constantly reassure themselves that everyone agrees with them is a very insecure, little, needle-****ed man who doesn't really trust his own convictions.....

Naming no names

[Ravens Fan]

He mentally quit. Miguel Cotto kept going out for rounds against Pacquiao but he didnt wanna fight. Pavlik accepted his fate after getting ******ed in that 9th round. He shut down and submitted.

If you name them, then you'll actually see how awful his reign was.

Okay, I will play along and name them. He was knocked down by Taylor, who many considered a pretty good fighter, he got up and stopped him. He than beat Taylor in a rematch at a catch weight that Taylor wanted. And what did he do? He actually out boxed Jermain. And anyone with an ounce of boxing knowledge knows boxing was not Taylor's problem. Okay, who else?

He got his a$$ handed to him by Hopkins but it was at a higher weight and Bhop also happens to be one of the best fighters in history. So, in my opinion, yes Pavlik should have done better, but still there was no shame in that loss. He beat Rubio who was a Ring top ten fighter when Pavlik fought him. And he is again a Ring top ten fighter. So someone with more boxing knowledge than I have must think he is a pretty good fighter.

Pavlik also had two **** fights with Lockett and Espino. And honestly I am not sure if either of them were mandatory defenses. Which they may have been. But, regardless name me one fighter who hasn't had a couple of **** title defenses? If you can come up with a list I guarantee it will be a short one. And than he lost to Sergio in a fight that was flat even going into the last four rounds. And by all accounts Sergio seems to be a pretty good fighter so no real shame in that loss. And that is not even taking into the account the cuts and the personal demons Kelly was dealing with.

With that said. I am a Pavlik fan and realize that he was the not greatest. However, I believe he accomplished a lot with the skills that God gave him. And as far as your opinion of him. It seems to me that it is possible that you have let you hate blind you as much as Kelly was blinded in the last four rounds of his fight with Sergio.

In closing I for one hope "The Ghost" has a successful return to the ring and I will be looking forward to it.

[KingTito]

I hope he gets it together this year.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Okay, I will play along and name them. He was knocked down by Taylor, who many considered a pretty good fighter, he got up and stopped him. He than beat Taylor in a rematch at a catch weight that Taylor wanted. And what did he do? He actually out boxed Jermain. And anyone with an ounce of boxing knowledge knows boxing was not Taylor's problem. Okay, who else?

He got his a$$ handed to him by Hopkins but it was at a higher weight and Bhop also happens to be one of the best fighters in history. So, in my opinion, yes Pavlik should have done better, but still there was no shame in that loss. He beat Rubio who was a Ring top ten fighter when Pavlik fought him. And he is again a Ring top ten fighter. So someone with more boxing knowledge than I have must think he is a pretty good fighter.

Pavlik also had two **** fights with Lockett and Espino. And honestly I am not sure if either of them were mandatory defenses. Which they may have been. But, regardless name me one fighter who hasn't had a couple of **** title defenses? If you can come up with a list I guarantee it will be a short one. And than he lost to Sergio in a fight that was flat even going into the last four rounds. And by all accounts Sergio seems to be a pretty good fighter so no real shame in that loss. And that is not even taking into the account the cuts and the personal demons Kelly was dealing with.

With that said. I am a Pavlik fan and realize that he was the not greatest. However, I believe he accomplished a lot with the skills that God gave him. And as far as your opinion of him. It seems to me that it is possible that you have let you hate blind you as much as Kelly was blinded in the last four rounds of his fight with Sergio.

In closing I for one hope "The Ghost" has a successful return to the ring and I will be looking forward to it.

I don't hate him, i just think he's not very good. And that his reign as MW Champ is one of the worst ever.

His succesful title defences were Lockett, Rubio and Espino.

I rest my case.

[Ravens Fan]

I don't hate him, i just think he's not very good. And that his reign as MW Champ is one of the worst ever.

His succesful title defences were Lockett, Rubio and Espino.

I rest my case.

You just choose not to look at the whole picture and you are free to do that. And by the way those three title defense were more than the combined title defense records of Rocky Graziano and Jake LaMotta. Just to name two. Now, I am not comparing Pavlik to those fighters. I just believe it is a matter of not always being as simple as it looks.

[Mr. Invincible]

Agrees with me on what? I really don't care who agrees with me. Someone who has to constantly reassure themselves that everyone agrees with them is a very insecure, little, needle-****ed man who doesn't really trust his own convictions.....

Naming no names

Have you ever heard of the machine that was broken that just didn't know how to compute that it was broken? That reminds me of you. You don't understand that you are touched mentally, which in that case I can't hold you fully responsible.