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    Originally posted by pac2 View Post
    Um isn't floyd gonna make more money regardless or am i wrong.

    lets say it's 50/50

    Mayweather 50% vs Pac 50% -27.5 % Arum- 10% golden boy -10% Konz/ariza

    Man it looks like Pacquiao aint gonna be left with nothing he has to pay arum about 30% 10 percent managers and golden boy he not gonna be left with nothing and Mayweather doesn't want to do business with a crook like Arum he still owes Mayweather millions. It really would be better for Pac to leave arum and make 40 mill he's not gonna make that with arum.

    Ima show you a trick Arum and don king have been using for years to steal fighters money even though they have a guaranteed purse.

    I dont understand why pac won't get his whole purse up front he doesn't deserrve this Arum's not the one in there putting his life on the line it's a shame man.

    You know how Arum always says pac has a 20 million dollar guarantee but with nevada it might say his purse is 6 million well arum always gives Pac that before the fight the 6 million and he will get the rest if the fight reaches the numbers Arum wanta so it comes out of his purse 20-6 = 14 so now he owes Pac 14mill but the PPV numbers and gate and all the other revenue comes in sometimes 3months to a year and a half after the fight so how is he gonna keep up with the revenue. All of it is under Top Rank Arum is keeping all of the backend money and when Pac comes in mad like i need some money he gives Pac advances that he has to pay back with interest it's like he isn't even paying him he ends up oweing Arum money. Vision quest said Pac didn't get paid for the Clottey fight but wasn't his guarantee like 20 mill. 20-6mill now 14mill but the Clootey fight didn't do the PPV numbers so he did'nt get the other 14 mill he kept the 6mill arum gets 27 or 27.5% of that 6 million so lets say it's now around 4.5 million don't eel like doing the exact math but thats close enough. Then 10% to his manger 10% to Golden Boy 40% taxes he might be left with 1 million then he gets advances that he pay's back with interest Arum is doing him dirty thats what Arum and Don king do but when fighters realized they got jerked and you try to sue all they do his counter sue and it stays in court for years all the legal fees it's not worth it the fighters money isn't long enough to mess with these promoters it's probably been 10 years plus and floyd still hasn't got his money from Arum and with Arum being a former lawyer there's nothing you can do.

    This is what Arum will do to pac for a Mayweather fight
    Guaranteed 50 mill but give him 10 mill up front before the fight now it's 40 million guarantee Arum get's 27 % taxes 40% GB 10% manger 10% Freddie Roach 10% Back end money Arum is gonna keep most of that and gives him some advances he has to pay back like he always does he might even try to dabble into Mayweathers back end money as well and if he really wanted to there is nothing Mayweather would really be able to do about it. With Arum Pac will walk away with 20-25 mill tops and that's if Arum decides not to screw him real bad. right now After taxes and all that he only makes a couple million a fight. He should leave Arum and take the 40 million he's not gonna make that with Arum. No matter which way you look at it he's not going to make more money than Mayweather because Mayweather doesn't have to deal with Arum. I don't blame Mayweather for not wanting Arum to try to steal his backend money i mean Aum is a crook and that's that. Pac better leave arum and take the 40 mill, Mayweather is gonna make that regardless he made that with Ortiz. To all fighters get all of your purse up front not some ima give you some of it but you get the rest if this happens, you open yourself up to getting jerked.

    The thing is all that backend money that's Pacquiao's Arum never gives him no where near what he should get he gives him advances of his own money wtf!!!! here is 500,000 you have to pay it back with interest thn Manny goe s through i need money again here is 700,000 you have to pay back with interest so it gives Arum an excuse to say you owe me 1.2 million and some change so he takes it out of his next fight but Pacquio doesn't realize that was his money from the jump Arum is making him pay interest on those advances on his money arum is a crazy mofo lol. Pac know he's getting jerked that's why he got vision quest in the first place he doesn't know what's really going on but he know it's funny business and he's missing money lots of it Arum keeping almost all of that backend money and gives Pac enough to keep him quiet just enough for Pac not to jump ship but he's advancing Pacquiao his own money and making him pay interest on money that belong to Pac and gets away with it i cant believe it you see how they got him to fire Vision Quest i mean what does Arum say to Pac does he have him under some type of spell i mean wow!!!!!
    not our problem ALT, its between promoters and fighters how they will divide their 50% share... if the other party get smaller purse promoter and fighter will get smaller purse also...

    if pac accept 40M, we dont know how much he will get from that but we are sure that he will get bigger in 50/50 split.
    Last edited by sapaw; 01-27-2012, 02:25 PM.

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      since when did manny ever generate more ppv buys than floyd--last time i checked--floyd still holds the ppv buyrate record with oscar--manny has not even come cloe to that-lol

      overall, floyd is the biggest draw in boxing, point/blank/period--manny needs a reality check---

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        Originally posted by pbftxrs316 View Post
        since when did manny ever generate more ppv buys than floyd--last time i checked--floyd still holds the ppv buyrate record with oscar--manny has not even come cloe to that-lol

        overall, floyd is the biggest draw in boxing, point/blank/period--manny needs a reality check---
        who get the lion share on that biggest PPV? its OSCAR... common sense?

        Whats the latest PPV #s of floyd? and what's on Pac? reality check? lol! again, what happened to just take the test and we have a fight? lol!

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          Originally posted by pac2 View Post
          Um isn't floyd gonna make more money regardless or am i wrong.

          lets say it's 50/50

          Mayweather 50% vs Pac 50% -27.5 % Arum- 10% golden boy -10% Konz/ariza

          Man it looks like Pacquiao aint gonna be left with nothing he has to pay arum about 30% 10 percent managers and golden boy he not gonna be left with nothing and Mayweather doesn't want to do business with a crook like Arum he still owes Mayweather millions. It really would be better for Pac to leave arum and make 40 mill he's not gonna make that with arum.

          Ima show you a trick Arum and don king have been using for years to steal fighters money even though they have a guaranteed purse.

          I dont understand why pac won't get his whole purse up front he doesn't deserrve this Arum's not the one in there putting his life on the line it's a shame man.

          You know how Arum always says pac has a 20 million dollar guarantee but with nevada it might say his purse is 6 million well arum always gives Pac that before the fight the 6 million and he will get the rest if the fight reaches the numbers Arum wanta so it comes out of his purse 20-6 = 14 so now he owes Pac 14mill but the PPV numbers and gate and all the other revenue comes in sometimes 3months to a year and a half after the fight so how is he gonna keep up with the revenue. All of it is under Top Rank Arum is keeping all of the backend money and when Pac comes in mad like i need some money he gives Pac advances that he has to pay back with interest it's like he isn't even paying him he ends up oweing Arum money. Vision quest said Pac didn't get paid for the Clottey fight but wasn't his guarantee like 20 mill. 20-6mill now 14mill but the Clootey fight didn't do the PPV numbers so he did'nt get the other 14 mill he kept the 6mill arum gets 27 or 27.5% of that 6 million so lets say it's now around 4.5 million don't eel like doing the exact math but thats close enough. Then 10% to his manger 10% to Golden Boy 40% taxes he might be left with 1 million then he gets advances that he pay's back with interest Arum is doing him dirty thats what Arum and Don king do but when fighters realized they got jerked and you try to sue all they do his counter sue and it stays in court for years all the legal fees it's not worth it the fighters money isn't long enough to mess with these promoters it's probably been 10 years plus and floyd still hasn't got his money from Arum and with Arum being a former lawyer there's nothing you can do.

          This is what Arum will do to pac for a Mayweather fight
          Guaranteed 50 mill but give him 10 mill up front before the fight now it's 40 million guarantee Arum get's 27 % taxes 40% GB 10% manger 10% Freddie Roach 10% Back end money Arum is gonna keep most of that and gives him some advances he has to pay back like he always does he might even try to dabble into Mayweathers back end money as well and if he really wanted to there is nothing Mayweather would really be able to do about it. With Arum Pac will walk away with 20-25 mill tops and that's if Arum decides not to screw him real bad. right now After taxes and all that he only makes a couple million a fight. He should leave Arum and take the 40 million he's not gonna make that with Arum. No matter which way you look at it he's not going to make more money than Mayweather because Mayweather doesn't have to deal with Arum. I don't blame Mayweather for not wanting Arum to try to steal his backend money i mean Aum is a crook and that's that. Pac better leave arum and take the 40 mill, Mayweather is gonna make that regardless he made that with Ortiz. To all fighters get all of your purse up front not some ima give you some of it but you get the rest if this happens, you open yourself up to getting jerked.

          The thing is all that backend money that's Pacquiao's Arum never gives him no where near what he should get he gives him advances of his own money wtf!!!! here is 500,000 you have to pay it back with interest thn Manny goe s through i need money again here is 700,000 you have to pay back with interest so it gives Arum an excuse to say you owe me 1.2 million and some change so he takes it out of his next fight but Pacquio doesn't realize that was his money from the jump Arum is making him pay interest on those advances on his money arum is a crazy mofo lol. Pac know he's getting jerked that's why he got vision quest in the first place he doesn't know what's really going on but he know it's funny business and he's missing money lots of it Arum keeping almost all of that backend money and gives Pac enough to keep him quiet just enough for Pac not to jump ship but he's advancing Pacquiao his own money and making him pay interest on money that belong to Pac and gets away with it i cant believe it you see how they got him to fire Vision Quest i mean what does Arum say to Pac does he have him under some type of spell i mean wow!!!!!

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            not our problem ALT, its between promoters and fighters how they will divide their 50% share... if the other party get smaller purse promoter and fighter will get smaller purse also...

            if pac accept 40M, we dont know how much he will get from that but we are sure that he will get bigger in 50/50 split.


            No he wont i just broke down the math for you with a 50/50 split Pacquiao will see 20-25 million tops with ppv etc because of Arum and that's if Arum feels sorry for him and decides not to rip him off too bad but he's been doing it for all these smaller fight's so the biggest fight in boxing history Pac is gonna get brutally ripped off by Arum because Pac allos it. He is not going to make anywhere close to 40 mill on a 50/50 split with Arum.

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              Oh then on top of that Arum said if they did agree to a 50/50 split that he still isn't gonna fight on May 5th he said Mayweather has to move the date so it's irrelevent Arum doesn't want the fight he wants to keep ripping off Pac which i just showed you and all of his other top Rank fighter that he matches Pac up with all under Top Rank i gotta give Arum his props he's a master crook.
              Last edited by pac2; 01-27-2012, 02:48 PM. Reason: speeled word wron

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                Originally posted by sapaw View Post
                who get the lion share on that biggest PPV? its OSCAR... common sense?

                Whats the latest PPV #s of floyd? and what's on Pac? reality check? lol! again, what happened to just take the test and we have a fight? lol!
                Just remember ODH's biggest ppv before that was Tito Trinidad at approx 1.4 mil ppv's. Even if ODH accounted for all those sales, which we know isn't true, that means floyd brought at least 1 mil paying customers.

                Floyd knows how to drum up interest for a fight. You can't take that away from him.

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                  Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                  Just remember ODH's biggest ppv before that was Tito Trinidad at approx 1.4 mil ppv's. Even if ODH accounted for all those sales, which we know isn't true, that means floyd brought at least 1 mil paying customers.

                  Floyd knows how to drum up interest for a fight. You can't take that away from him.
                  and what's the biggest PPV of floyd before/after oscar fight?

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                    end this thread

                    50-50 or nothing, nobody can argue against it

                    pac vs marquez did around 1.4m ppv

                    pac vs mosley around 1.3m buys both from dan rafael reported who *****s used to confirm his figures for his fights

                    pac did more in his last fight and before that than floyd vs ortiz did

                    pac accepted ost, he accepted floyds date and now floyd pull this bs? forget it, the fight will only happen with 50-50, until the *****s can continue being inbreds and just talk rubbish

                    even the biggest ***** atlas could not defend floyd on this

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                      Um isn't floyd gonna make more money regardless or am i wrong.

                      lets say it's 50/50

                      Mayweather 50% vs Pac 50% -27.5 % Arum- 10% golden boy -10% Konz/ariza

                      Man it looks like Pacquiao aint gonna be left with nothing he has to pay arum about 30% 10 percent managers and golden boy he not gonna be left with nothing and Mayweather doesn't want to do business with a crook like Arum he still owes Mayweather millions. It really would be better for Pac to leave arum and make 40 mill he's not gonna make that with arum.

                      Ima show you a trick Arum and don king have been using for years to steal fighters money even though they have a guaranteed purse.

                      I dont understand why pac won't get his whole purse up front he doesn't deserrve this Arum's not the one in there putting his life on the line it's a shame man.

                      You know how Arum always says pac has a 20 million dollar guarantee but with nevada it might say his purse is 6 million well arum always gives Pac that before the fight the 6 million and he will get the rest if the fight reaches the numbers Arum wanta so it comes out of his purse 20-6 = 14 so now he owes Pac 14mill but the PPV numbers and gate and all the other revenue comes in sometimes 3months to a year and a half after the fight so how is he gonna keep up with the revenue. All of it is under Top Rank Arum is keeping all of the backend money and when Pac comes in mad like i need some money he gives Pac advances that he has to pay back with interest it's like he isn't even paying him he ends up oweing Arum money. Vision quest said Pac didn't get paid for the Clottey fight but wasn't his guarantee like 20 mill. 20-6mill now 14mill but the Clootey fight didn't do the PPV numbers so he did'nt get the other 14 mill he kept the 6mill arum gets 27 or 27.5% of that 6 million so lets say it's now around 4.5 million don't eel like doing the exact math but thats close enough. Then 10% to his manger 10% to Golden Boy 40% taxes he might be left with 1 million then he gets advances that he pay's back with interest Arum is doing him dirty thats what Arum and Don king do but when fighters realized they got jerked and you try to sue all they do his counter sue and it stays in court for years all the legal fees it's not worth it the fighters money isn't long enough to mess with these promoters it's probably been 10 years plus and floyd still hasn't got his money from Arum and with Arum being a former lawyer there's nothing you can do.

                      This is what Arum will do to pac for a Mayweather fight
                      Guaranteed 50 mill but give him 10 mill up front before the fight now it's 40 million guarantee Arum get's 27 % taxes 40% GB 10% manger 10% Freddie Roach 10% Back end money Arum is gonna keep most of that and gives him some advances he has to pay back like he always does he might even try to dabble into Mayweathers back end money as well and if he really wanted to there is nothing Mayweather would really be able to do about it. With Arum Pac will walk away with 20-25 mill tops and that's if Arum decides not to screw him real bad. right now After taxes and all that he only makes a couple million a fight. He should leave Arum and take the 40 million he's not gonna make that with Arum. No matter which way you look at it he's not going to make more money than Mayweather because Mayweather doesn't have to deal with Arum. I don't blame Mayweather for not wanting Arum to try to steal his backend money i mean Aum is a crook and that's that. Pac better leave arum and take the 40 mill, Mayweather is gonna make that regardless he made that with Ortiz. To all fighters get all of your purse up front not some ima give you some of it but you get the rest if this happens, you open yourself up to getting jerked.

                      The thing is all that backend money that's Pacquiao's Arum never gives him no where near what he should get he gives him advances of his own money wtf!!!! here is 500,000 you have to pay it back with interest thn Manny goe s through i need money again here is 700,000 you have to pay back with interest so it gives Arum an excuse to say you owe me 1.2 million and some change so he takes it out of his next fight but Pacquio doesn't realize that was his money from the jump Arum is making him pay interest on those advances on his money arum is a crazy mofo lol. Pac know he's getting jerked that's why he got vision quest in the first place he doesn't know what's really going on but he know it's funny business and he's missing money lots of it Arum keeping almost all of that backend money and gives Pac enough to keep him quiet just enough for Pac not to jump ship but he's advancing Pacquiao his own money and making him pay interest on money that belong to Pac and gets away with it i cant believe it you see how they got him to fire Vision Quest i mean what does Arum say to Pac does he have him under some type of spell i mean wow!!!!!

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