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    #21
    Originally posted by Chopper417 View Post
    I disagree. And the fact that Mayweather also hold a win over Mosley kinda discounts that as well. And realistically the next best win Cotto has is probably either Judah or Clottey, pretty underwhelming if you ask me.
    In my opinion, I'd say his 2nd best win is Quintana which is good actually.

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      #22
      Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
      Was not a strong era of superfeathers IMO, just really Castillo at 135lbs.

      Decent fighters but not even the top five of since 2000 at their weight.
      My goodness. Corrales and Castillo ALONE. Especially the fashion in which beat beat Chico. Cotto, as much as I love him, has never beaten an elite fighter like that.

      Floyd's WW resume is underrated too. You're just completely dismissing Floyd's career for no apparent reason.

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        #23
        When Jermain Taylor "beat" the #1 pound 4 pound fighter in Hopkins he did not become the #1 pound 4 pound fighter himself, simply the #2 was bumped up (which happened to be floyd at the time).

        The same would apply here. (Either floyd remains #1 or is moved up from #2 to #1, depending on how you rank them.)

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          #24
          Originally posted by Chopper417 View Post
          I disagree. And the fact that Mayweather also hold a win over Mosley kinda discounts that as well. And realistically the next best win Cotto has is probably either Judah or Clottey, pretty underwhelming if you ask me.
          The Mosley Cotto fought was much tougher.

          Judah, Clottey, Quintana, good wins, not great yes, but Floyd does not have great wins on his resume.

          You could give him Corrales but never proved he was top fighter IMO. Floyd has good wins but not great.

          A win over Pacquiao would clearly put Cotto infront of Mayweather for me.

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            #25
            You can make a case for it

            Mayweather's best win(s) is against Chico (RIP) and JLC. Cotto fought a better SSM, did better against common opponents and then he would have a Pacquaio on his ledger. That alone would trump Mayweather's career. He fought Margarito when Margarito was one of the most avoided champs in the division, who Mayweather avoided to fight Baldomir. I do give credit to Floyd for the Ortiz win though, even though it ended just when it got warmed up through and through a suspect move.

            Mayweather is probably the better fighter overall, but who cares about who has more skills if the two greatest challenges you were presented, you avoided? (Cotto, 2007/08 and Pacquaio, now).

            Flame away, but note, Cotto has not beaten Pacquaio and most likely would not be able to match him again in speed and would be overwhelmed, so the point is moot. So troll lightly

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              #26
              Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
              Was not a strong era of superfeathers IMO, just really Castillo at 135lbs.

              Decent fighters but not even the top five of since 2000 at their weight.
              Genaro Hernandez
              Angel Manfredy
              Diego Corrales
              Jesus Chavez
              Demarcus Corley
              Arturo Gatti
              Sharmba Mitchell
              Zab Judah
              Carlos Baldomir
              Oscar De La Hoya
              Shane Mosley
              Ricky Hatton
              JMM
              Victor Ortiz

              ^ were all at least top 5 in their weightclasses when Floyd fought them...you're such a troll.

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                #27
                Originally posted by savorduhflavor View Post
                My goodness. Corrales and Castillo ALONE. Especially the fashion in which beat beat Chico. Cotto, as much as I love him, has never beaten an elite fighter like that.

                Floyd's WW resume is underrated too. You're just completely dismissing Floyd's career for no apparent reason.
                Chico was no elite fighter. Very good, had some great fights with Castillo but that don't make you an elite fighter. You call Chico an elite fighter, who next Judah?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                  The Mosley Cotto fought was much tougher.

                  Judah, Clottey, Quintana, good wins, not great yes, but Floyd does not have great wins on his resume.

                  You could give him Corrales but never proved he was top fighter IMO. Floyd has good wins but not great.

                  A win over Pacquiao would clearly put Cotto infront of Mayweather for me.
                  Beating the likes of Freitas, Castillo, Manfredy, Casamayor...very tough tasks, that's definitely a top fighter in my opinion.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by savorduhflavor View Post
                    My goodness. Corrales and Castillo ALONE. Especially the fashion in which beat beat Chico. Cotto, as much as I love him, has never beaten an elite fighter like that.

                    Floyd's WW resume is underrated too. You're just completely dismissing Floyd's career for no apparent reason.
                    Chico was elite...? He was a good, solid fighter though and a great win in Floyd's resume...but elite?

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                      #30
                      No.

                      Did JMM move up in the rankings because he beat Poochiao in their 3rd fight?

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