jow calzaghe: I would have beaten ward

[BoxingGenius27]

I highly doubt it..

[tennishero]

unlike leonard, mayweather, foreman, frasier, liston, louis

RJJ never lost in his prime

mayweather of course was destroyed by castillo in a shut out

[Mr. Invincible]

I highly doubt it..

Are you not entertained????????

[BoxingGenius27]

Are you not entertained????????

Haha That's right baby!!

One of the best parts of the movie. I get hype just thinking about it *starts shadow boxing*

[Mr. Invincible]

Haha That's right baby!!

One of the best parts of the movie. I get hype just thinking about it *starts shadow boxing*

Gladiator is the GOAT of epics side by side with Braveheart as far as I'm concerned. I remember leaving the theater awe struck. I was shocked that somebody even came close to Braveheart much less almost equal it.

[BoxingGenius27]

Gladiator is the GOAT of epics side by side with Braveheart as far as I'm concerned. I remember leaving the theater awe struck. I was shocked that somebody even came close to Braveheart much less almost equal it.

You are absolutely right.

I actually paid to see Gladiator two times at the movies back to back....

My top 3 are:

1. Gladiator
2. Lord of The Rings II
3. Troy

** #2 and #3 are interchangable, with Braveheart and 300 getting honorable mentions

[Mr. Philadel]

@ Joe...that fraud wouldn't have fought Ward..let alone beat him!!

[RichCCFC]

@ Joe...that fraud wouldn't have fought Ward..let alone beat him!!

Well he beat your hero

so guess the joke is on you

[BUTE]

When asked if he would have beaten Ward if the pair had met

Joe smiled and replied - 'I think the way Ward fights would have suited me to be honest, I would have had too much speed and power for him - so yes, I would have beaten him

JOE was a great fighter.....another level.

[4Corners]

You can't knock Calzaghe for who he fought and all, because he fought everyone at SMW in his era. Granted, it's not even close to how many good SMW there are today, but it's who was in his era, and I think Joe would be capable of beating just about any SMW. His resume isn't that great, and one could argue that Andre Ward already has a better resume.

Joe Calzaghe notable fights:
1997: Chris Eubank- W UD12
2001: Mario Veit- W TKO1
2005: Mario Veit- W TKO6
2006: Jeff Lacy- W UD12
2007: Peter Manfredo Jr.- W TKO3
2007: Mikkel Kessler- W UD12
2008: Bernard Hopkins- W SD12
2008: Roy Jones Jr.- W UD12

Andre Ward notable fights:
2009: Edison Miranda- W UD12
2009: Mikkel Kessler- W TD11
2010: Allan Green- W UD12
2011: Arthur Abraham- W UD12
2011: Carl Froch- W UD12

So, Joe beat Eubank, Veit, Lacy, Manfredo, Kessler (best win), Hopkins, and Jones. Eubank and Veit were top people when Joe fought them, but not really big time threats or great fighters. Lacy was seen as a really good up-and-coming guy and some people were picking him to beat Joe, and Joe beat him down, a great win. Manfredo was a decent win. Kessler was a great win, his best in my opinion. Hopkins was a good win, especially as we've seen that Bernard is still pretty decent, even in 2011. However, it was controversial, and I would liked to have seen a rematch, as Joe didn't win it outright by any means. I had Joe winning, but it was close. Jones, did zero for his legacy, as Jones was already 6-7 years removed from his prime.

Than, Andre has beat Miranda, Kessler, Green, Abraham, and Froch already, and he's only 27. Miranda was a decent win, same class as Joe's Manfredo win really. Kessler was a great win, but Joe gets more credit for doing it first. Green was a solid win, a pretty good fighter, who was seen as a legit threat going in, and Andre shut him out. The Green win was close to the Lacy win, as Green's reputation to a significant blow when he was KO'd by Johnson. Abraham, another really good win for Ward. Abraham was a really good, top SMW fighter. And Froch, Ward's best win to date, was a huge win.

So, one could argue that Ward has already beaten better people that Joe ever did, but you can't knock what Calzaghe did though. He dominated the SMW division from the late 90's to the late 00's, with relative ease. The only thing that stops me from saying "Yeah, Joe would have beaten Ward", is the fact that even a 42-43 year old Hopkins was able to nullify what Calzaghe was able to do. Granted, Joe wasn't in his prime when that fight happened, but eh was past his prime-still good until he retired. Joe picked a good time to retire, because we never really saw Joe fall on his face and fight to the point where he wasn't even that good anymore, and that's a good thing. I had Joe beating Bernard, but it wasn't by a large margin.

Joe Calzaghe is STILL an ATG, given the dominance he had for his era, at his weight, But, to say he beats Ward hands down is stretching it. Ward has started to dominate as well as Joe did, so far, and against much better fighters than Joe ever had to fight from 97-05.

Joe threw punches in bunches and had really good speed for a SMW, but Ward is pretty fast as well. Ward has fast hands, can counter with a straight right, jab, or a left hook. If they both fought, in their primes, there'd be a lot of clinching, and I suspect a lot of Brit's would b*tch and moan about Ward clinching in the fight. But, clicnhing at the right moments is an effective way to stop your opponent from getting off and getting going on you, and Andre would do it. I don't see Joe's power being too much to handle, as I don't think Ward is fazed by good punching power, he took shots from Froch like they were nothing, and was able to exchange with Froch well. The biggest question to me is how would a Calzaghe-Ward fight play out on the inside??? Would Ward be able beat Joe down on the inside the way he did Froch??? Would he be able to take Joe to the ropes they way he did Froch, and would Joe be able to cutoff the ring against Ward once Andre starts to box and move around???

There's too many questions really, and it'll never happen.