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    #11
    Originally posted by Pugly! View Post
    ortiz also almost finished berto. . . berto will lose again. . . ortiz just class and cut above. . .
    When Berto dropped that second hammer on Ortiz and had him backing up to the ropes. If Berto didn't get sloppy and leave himself open for the counter and pace himself then he could of got Vic out of there because Ortiz was looking a lil shaky. With that said Ortiz did what he was supposed to do in the first fight now lets see if he can repeat it. I say he can but not sure what Berto is going to do this time.

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      #12
      The first fight was a perfect example of two fighters with poor defences. Perfect match-up of styles but i think that Berto will be a bit more cagey this time around. Ortiz is made to be outboxed so if Berto can tighten his defence then he should box him to a UD. I still fancy Ortiz though as Berto has no tank.

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        #13
        Originally posted by tito_bandito View Post
        Some don't understand that Berto cannot adjust in or after a fight. Ortiz, even after beating Berto made adjustments when fighting Mayweather. For instance, when he turned his body while trying to chase Mayweather he did not just throw a left cross to leave himself open. The times Berto dropped Ortiz were cuz he kept leading with his left when he turned his body which caused him to get blind sided by a right hand. Berto is just a brawler with hand speed and explosiveness. Ortiz can almost match him in speed and has more defense and pop than Berto. I expect Ortiz to stop Berto mid way around the fight.
        Ortiz gets his ass whipped this time around if its a boxing match! Berto has alot faster hand and foot speed. If he box ortiz he'll get the ko. If he brawls he'll loose again. Berto is gonna have to make Ortiz respect his power early by sharp shooting right cross counters,and force ortiz to hesitate before each attack. This will allow Berto to time him and catch him cleanly coming in!you can thank Mayweather for laying out the perfect blue print to an easy victory over Ortiz.
        Last edited by SWEETSCIENCE100; 12-19-2011, 10:54 PM.

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          #14
          ortiz should retire ***en quitter

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            #15
            Berto beats him this time around.

            Ortiz's confidence levels won't be very high coming into this fight.

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              #16
              Berto Loses Again,He got a taste of defeat and will lose once more

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                #17
                Originally posted by tito_bandito View Post
                Some don't understand that Berto cannot adjust in or after a fight. Ortiz, even after beating Berto made adjustments when fighting Mayweather. For instance, when he turned his body while trying to chase Mayweather he did not just throw a left cross to leave himself open. The times Berto dropped Ortiz were cuz he kept leading with his left when he turned his body which caused him to get blind sided by a right hand. Berto is just a brawler with hand speed and explosiveness. Ortiz can almost match him in speed and has more defense and pop than Berto. I expect Ortiz to stop Berto mid way around the fight.
                I especially like that last adjustment Ortiz made against Mayweather, you know the one where he kept his hands down by his side for two consecutive punches. Ortiz lacks the heart of a champion, Berto def has more heart, but I kinda think Ortiz wins again. If Berto is stronger than Ortiz this time, and he could be if he got the right supplements and training, then he can make Ortiz quit.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100 View Post
                  Ortiz gets his ass whipped this time around if its a boxing match! Berto has alot faster hand and foot speed. If he box ortiz he'll get the ko. If he brawls he'll loose again. Berto is gonna have to make Ortiz respect his power early by sharp shooting right cross counters,and force ortiz to hesitate before each attack. This will allow Berto to time him and catch him cleanly coming in!you can thank Mayweather for laying out the perfect blue print to an easy victory over Ortiz.
                  Ha Berto cannot duplicate what Mayweather does. Berto cannot follow that blueprint. All that matters in this fight is strength and will power. Whoever is stronger, most likely wins.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by tito_bandito View Post
                    Some don't understand that Berto cannot adjust in or after a fight. Ortiz, even after beating Berto made adjustments when fighting Mayweather. For instance, when he turned his body while trying to chase Mayweather he did not just throw a left cross to leave himself open. The times Berto dropped Ortiz were cuz he kept leading with his left when he turned his body which caused him to get blind sided by a right hand. Berto is just a brawler with hand speed and explosiveness. Ortiz can almost match him in speed and has more defense and pop than Berto. I expect Ortiz to stop Berto mid way around the fight.
                    I get it, you're an Ortiz fan.To say he made adjustments in the 4 round Mayweather fight is just a little bit of reaching....

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                      #20
                      Both their bubbles have been burst, will be interesting to see who can come back from their defeat best.

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