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    Originally posted by Red Cyclone View Post
    Nah I don't agree man, I think Chisora when he shows the effort to train and put on a good show can be a good fighter I want Helenius to fight him in a rematch set the score see what happens when Del-boy fights Helenius who has both hands ready for use.
    I watched the latest Helenius fight and found it truly uneventful, I see nothing Helenius as to offer the division. The Chisora fight with him in 2011 was it ? That was poor, neither one of them was impressive that night when the could have made a career statement that evening.

    Both are the same level, poor.

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      Originally posted by -Scott-Weiland- View Post
      I watched the latest Helenius fight and found it truly uneventful, I see nothing Helenius as to offer the division. The Chisora fight with him in 2011 was it ? That was poor, neither one of them was impressive that night when the could have made a career statement that evening.

      Both are the same level, poor.
      Helenius just had a bad night against Chisora. People base their criticism, of Helenius, solely on that one fight. Robert Helenius is a skilled fighter, hands down. He's rangey and fights well on the outside, his defense is very solid, he moves extremely well for a tall fighter and has shown on occassion that he has intensity and killer instinct (watch the Brewster, Peter, Liakhovich fights).

      I've been touting this guy for years and I think he's the 'darkhorse' of the HW division. He's yet to make an impression on the division but he's more than capable given the opportunity.

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        Originally posted by BostonGuy View Post
        Helenius just had a bad night against Chisora. People base their criticism, of Helenius, solely on that one fight. Robert Helenius is a skilled fighter, hands down. He's rangey and fights well on the outside, his defense is very solid, he moves extremely well for a tall fighter and has shown on occassion that he has intensity and killer instinct (watch the Brewster, Peter, Liakhovich fights).

        I've been touting this guy for years and I think he's the 'darkhorse' of the HW division. He's yet to make an impression on the division but he's more than capable given the opportunity.
        The Timur Musfarev fight is his third fight in recent months, he should now be up to speed if he's about to face Teper, I saw nothing to hint he could make an impact on the highest stage, even in the event he out boxes Teper.

        I rated him highly too, I'm just pretty far from where I stood on him before right now.

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          Originally posted by -Scott-Weiland- View Post
          The Timur Musfarev fight is his third fight in recent months, he should now be up to speed if he's about to face Teper, I saw nothing to hint he could make an impact on the highest stage, even in the event he out boxes Teper.

          I rated him highly too, I'm just pretty far from where I stood on him before right now.
          The Musfarev fight was an exhibition match so naturally both fighters were not giving 100% and trying to do damage. In other words it was glorified sparring match.

          I hope the Teber fight happens soon; it will be a litmus test for both fighters.

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            Originally posted by BostonGuy View Post
            The Musfarev fight was an exhibition match so naturally both fighters were not giving 100% and trying to do damage. In other words it was glorified sparring match.

            I hope the Teber fight happens soon; it will be a litmus test for both fighters.
            I think Teper has had his head turned by the IBF belt.

            I could agree with the Musfarev notion, I hope I'm wrong, I really do. I genuinely mean that, I love the division, it only benefits an Helenius doing what he did pre 2012.

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                Arreola's ready to take care of business on Saturday.


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                  Originally posted by Santa_ View Post
                  Arreola's ready to take care of business on Saturday.


                  If Arreola wins and looks impressive next Sat he might get the title shot against Wilder.

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                    Originally posted by BostonGuy View Post
                    If Arreola wins and looks impressive next Sat he might get the title shot against Wilder.

                    Wilder's been in some wars lately. If Arreola touches that chin like Molina and Duhaupas did it's lights out for Wilder.

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