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    #51
    Originally posted by sapaw View Post
    give me article or videos that Pac himself (NOT ARUM) said to reporters/writers (not fly by night writers) that he is afraid of needles and I will give my account to you... But I can show you video of floyd saying he is not thinking boxing and on vacation while negotiations taking place. Maybe Arum dont want this fight at this moment and I hate that scumbag for that!
    What's the difference??? Arum or pacquiao..isn't it the same?? I mean pac is the one always saying "talk to my promoter" every time he's asked about who he's gonna fight next..arum runs the **** not pacquiao (because pac let's him run it)

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      #52
      Originally posted by Gino Ros View Post
      Floyd, Ellerbe, Schaefer all said that they are prepared and trying to negotiate this fight for May 5th.

      The media NOW says that Floyd is pursuing the fight for May.

      So, what's the problem...NOW?
      so how bias you are? When Pac himself said he want that fight, then you discredit it but when floyd said he is want that fight... he doing his best to make that fight happen... so I think the problem is you! lol

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        #53
        Originally posted by sapaw View Post
        Did floyd ever say or do to make this fight happen? Im still waiting for the his signed contract he mentioning months ago... let me ask you same questions you do, do floyd have power to make the fight happen especially on previous negotiations? ow... he is on vacation, not thinking boxing, racist comments, no negotiations while Pres of HBO said there was? i




        if Manny is a puppet, Floyd is puppet too. how many times he said talk to my promoter... the only last thing he said that he wants PAc next was before his last fight and few days after he said that... he was lying...
        Look man, you can deflect s**t all night if you want to....but at the end of the day, everyone is seeing the light on who's avoiding the fight, even Pac's team is. Even they are admitting that Arum and Top Rank are not interestesd in pursuing a fight with Floyd, in favor of Marquez again. And, if they choose not to negotiate with Floyd, it rests on Manny's shoulders according Koncz, his personal adviser. He still said Manny has absolute final say, and I am willing to bet that Manny will once again take Arum's advice and fight someone other than Floyd.

        You pac fans are so quick to forget that it was Manny, not Floyd, that straight up walked away from negotiations and announced thwe Clottey fight a day or two later. Also, how has Floyd been ducking when his one demand has to be agreed upon??? Arum himself said a day after the JMM fight Saturday that "Manny is finally going to call Floyd's bluff and agree to testing", CLEARLY indicating Manny has yet to agree random testing by the USADA without a cutoff date. Than, a day later, we get the report that Top Rank is not pursuing a fight with Floyd, in favor of a 4th JMM fight. How can you say Mayweather's been or still is ducking???

        Also, you wanna come up with vacation talks, fair enough. How about the whole "Money Time: Mayweather's Decision" when there was never any decision to make. Margarito himself said at that time he signed and ready to fight Manny that November, and had even ben guaranteed the shot at Pacquiao way back in February 2010. Yeah, Arum and Team Pac really wanted the fight. Also, that whole thing was a non factor, simply because Manny still hadn't agreed to randomt esting without a cutoff, the only demand he had to agree to.

        For the record, I think Manny wants the fight, he's just too much of a push over and agrees to anything and everything Arum says. It's crazy, absolutely crazy. You can't hide from Monday nights revelation, no matter what you try to say about anything. Even Jim Rome and Dan Rafael, two HUGE Floyd haters, are dogging Pac and Arum at this point.

        If Pac wants the fight, he will push Arum to make it. If no negotiations take place, than no more excuses will be available for Arum and Pacquiao.
        Last edited by 4Corners; 11-18-2011, 10:42 AM.

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          #54
          Originally posted by sapaw View Post
          so how bias you are? When Pac himself said he want that fight, then you discredit it but when floyd said he is want that fight... he doing his best to make that fight happen... so I think the problem is you! lol
          who is doing his best?? Pacquiao???

          You're making it sound like he's a victim of the arum regime

          The only one who can make this fight happen is pacquiao...

          If arum tells him to fight JMM for the 4th time..all pac has to say is NO..no one can force him to fight..pac knows that his fans want the mayweather fight..I think for once he should listen to the fans instead of arum.

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            #55
            Originally posted by BoZz View Post
            What's the difference??? Arum or pacquiao..isn't it the same?? I mean pac is the one always saying "talk to my promoter" every time he's asked about who he's gonna fight next..arum runs the **** not pacquiao (because pac let's him run it)
            So you cant show me link where Pac said he is afraid of needles?

            and how many times did Floyd said "talk to promoter"? Promoter is different from a fighter... So everything that a promoter said, the fighter also say that? Remember when Oscar said fight is almost sealed on TV interview while floyd said he is not thinking boxing?

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              #56
              Looking unimpressive in a fourth fight would hurt Manny's stock more than looking unimpressive or even losing vs Mayweather.

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                #57
                Manny is no pushover.

                He's just very, very comfortable having Bob play the bad guy.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by sapaw View Post
                  Did floyd ever say or do to make this fight happen? ...
                  You mean, Other than offering Pac 50/50 purse split, 14 day testing cutoff, the date of Manny's choice and agreeing to $10 million per pound weight penalty?

                  Other than that?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by sapaw View Post
                    so how bias you are? When Pac himself said he want that fight, then you discredit it but when floyd said he is want that fight... he doing his best to make that fight happen... so I think the problem is you! lol
                    Floyd told "his promoter" to make the fight happen.

                    Did Manny tell his promoter to make the fight happen? Or is Manny saying "whatever my promoter wants"?

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Gino Ros View Post
                      Floyd told "his promoter" to make the fight happen.

                      Did Manny tell his promoter to make the fight happen? Or is Manny saying "whatever my promoter wants"?
                      Hey dude, Pacquiao tried to make the fight happen with the suppose great defensive fighter...............


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