Comments Thread For: Ellerbe: After Floyd KO's Pacquiao, 'Marquez 4' Still There

[clmags12]

your right!!!!! pac not fighting any one of serious consideration( aside from marquez and cotto wt drained) is getting old. when was the last time pac fought someone and you said, " man if pac is not careful he could lose" its been years right? and why is pac not fighting some of the top ww. is it not strange he only fights in-house fights? kind of suspect. so you go from floyd is ducking pac to floyd go fight spme one else. you dudes really kill me. im just kind of mad because i wanted floyd to defeat manny in spectacular fashion so i could read all the mea culpa from pac fans. and i agree also with you on the fact that all these excuses from team pac HAVE BEEN OLD FOR SOME TIME. and what happened to "god cant stop marquez from getting ko'd in the 1st round"??????? i guess he was shown the truth. ariza had his version of the burning bush LOL

In all seriousness bro,
Cotto- his 145 cw was not draining to him, he weighed 146 with Clottey. And the man himself, said no problem. The first 5 rounds proved he was ok.
Marquez- yeah, I was predicting KO because of Juan "FAT" performance with Floyd. 24/7 showed the improvement in training, excellent!
The others were interesting but not really needed.

And yes I am one of those dudes who want Floyd to fight everybody. Don't you want to see him tested with a host of different challengers- styles and sizes. If you claim to be the best.. Bro, I was there when Money May was born from Pretty Boy. I didn't like it did you?

[Rolaz]

Go ahead, make that fight happens in May 2012!

[mrjoeblive]

My post is not from a fanboy perspective it's just logical reasoning TO ME(you might have a different perspective and that's fine I respect that it's not personal).

No floyds not a psychic. Did he not say "pacquiao you're next!" and then after the Ortiz fight he said,"no I did not say that don't put words in my mouth" when he CLEARLY SAID IT AT A PRSS CONFERENCE ON VIDEO. An he didn't say he wante to fight pacquiao next. He said he wants the biggest fight out there but unless he say pacquiaos name then it don't mean **** to me. He can't be trusted from sucker punches to not meeting weight requirements. Etc list goes on...

You said he's said two weeks ago he wanted to fight pacquiao. K you said it not me but pacquiaos been trying to fight him for almost 3 year but Floyd only been saying it for 2 weeks. You said it not me.lol

Floyd dodged the fight by bringing up ost. Pacquiaos been saying testings not an issue for a year at least and the whole time Floyd's been saying, "TAKE THE TEST!" but manny obviously didn't negotiate with Floyd from Saturday til today so what's changed? Did they secretly negotiate since Saturday and manny just now said testing not an issue? No, he's been saying it forever so how come Floyd aint yellin "TAKE THE TEST!" now? Answer that for me. Testing was never an issue. Floyd lie to you and the rest of the Floyd extremist. The only thing now is Floyd wasn't confident in his skills before but after witnessing Saturday he really believes it now which is why he ain't preaching the "TAKE THE TEST!"

Now look here dumb****, Floyd HAS to make many take the test now or else it's blatant that testing was never an issue. If the first negotiations started yesterday he wouldn't ask for ost. Now sit down boy. Common sense.

you are not coming from a logical perspective your coming from a ******* point of view thats rife with crappy information. 1st roach said they already knew floyd wanted ost BEFOREthey started negotiating and said it wouldnt be a problem. also pac asked for outrageous items to the contract 10million per pound over wt. even though pac came in for two of his fights over the contracted wt(but u dont know this because your a fan of one man)
and how come when pac was asked did he want to fight floyd he said" ask bob arum" and dont forget who WALKED AWAY FROM THE FIRST TALKS and said we'll fight in court not in the ring. and about testing, pacs camp said no problem with testing and when pressed they said "unlimited urine testing and blood testing with a 14 day cut off" they wobble on the issue so much the pac camp dont know the answer. buboy was just quoted as saying issues with ost. and arum accused usada of being on floyds pay role. and floyd is STILL saying all who fight him MUST under go ost. and floyd has always said "easy work" the only ones that thought differently were you and a few under cover *******s. REAL boxing fans looked at pacs record and who he has fought and didnt fight. and the 1st 2 fights with JMM and said floyd beats this dude with ease. only now you and your ilk see what real boxing fans knew all along. we knew how a floyd vs pac fight would end. the same as the last 42 for floyd. so when you come in here get your facts str8. you can go to fight hype and get a time line of the negotiations and you will see 98%of your post is wrong. Dedication posted a link some time ago. *******s are crying hard.LOL

[hitking]

hahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha roy jones or james tony. LOL its like when pac fought barrera and they said how great a victory that was. they just didnt mention that barrera had like 70 fights under his belt. same with el terrible, he had a ton of fights so pac should have looked good vs these past their prime pro that used wheel chairs to get to the ring. and people really thought pac was going to ko JMM in the 1st six rounds??????? i said this would be another controversy and boy was it. some well known *******s said pac lost and you could tell they were hurt. i felt kind of bad for them. but not too bad.

Of course, those fights with RJ and Toney would need to be at a catchweight of 147.00000000000000001 in order to make the wins truly legendary.

I'm gonna stop now. I might be giving Arum ideasm

[Boxingtech718v2]

hahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha roy jones or james tony. LOL its like when pac fought barrera and they said how great a victory that was. they just didnt mention that barrera had like 70 fights under his belt. same with el terrible, he had a ton of fights so pac should have looked good vs these past their prime pro that used wheel chairs to get to the ring. and people really thought pac was going to ko JMM in the 1st six rounds??????? i said this would be another controversy and boy was it. some well known *******s said pac lost and you could tell they were hurt. i felt kind of bad for them. but not too bad.

Half these guys aren't really familiar with boxing outside of pac's career. That's why they fail to realize that beating a guy on the tail end of his career, coming off a loss is nothing to get props for. All they register is a big name. It's not who you beat but when you beat them that counts the most in boxing.

[mrjoeblive]

In all seriousness bro,
Cotto- his 145 cw was not draining to him, he weighed 146 with Clottey. And the man himself, said no problem. The first 5 rounds proved he was ok.
Marquez- yeah, I was predicting KO because of Juan "FAT" performance with Floyd. 24/7 showed the improvement in training, excellent!
The others were interesting but not really needed.

And yes I am one of those dudes who want Floyd to fight everybody. Don't you want to see him tested with a host of different challengers- styles and sizes. If you claim to be the best.. Bro, I was there when Money May was born from Pretty Boy. I didn't like it did you?

let me start by saying, i like this post. it feels like it came from your heart. if you are going to say floyd cheated because he came in at 146 as oppose to 144. then you cant argue 2 pounds make a difference. as for JMM a lot of posters were seduced by roach and arizas trash talking. i was not. all my post i said this fight too will end in controversy. as for floyd going from pretty boy to money may, it didnt bother me as i knew it was just a marketing ploy. i personally know floyd does a LOT of charity work and he never talks about it. he donates a lot of money and does not brag about it. money may made him the top ppv attraction in boxing. and before they used floyd to hype manny. manny's ppvs were horrible. the 1st 2 fights with JMM totaled 750k while floyds 1 fight with JMM did 950k. money may is a created persona that allows floyd to get fans and haters to buy his fights. and make him ****** rich in the process.

[Left2theliver]

This fight just needs to happen NOW!!!!! It's already lost some of it's luster, and both guys aren't getting any younger. The fans wanna see it and the money's there, what more reason is there NOT to fight? The fans have demanded this fight more than any other fight in Boxing, and that should be MORE than enough for them to fight. MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!

[mrjoeblive]

]Half these guys aren't really familiar with boxing outside of pac's career. That's why they fail to realize that beating a guy on the tail end of his career, coming off a loss is nothing to get props for. All they register is a big name. It's not who you beat but when you beat them that counts the most in boxing[/B].

and thats the whole truth and nothing but the truth. and yes i had to bold the entire post.

[mrjoeblive]

Of course, those fights with RJ and Toney would need to be at a catchweight of 147.00000000000000001 in order to make the wins truly legendary.

I'm gonna stop now. I might be giving Arum ideasm

man you are killing me.

[LeadUppercut]

take this advice dont feed into the arum lies.. free your mind

Only the very ******est of *******s still believe that second negotiation rubbish, most realise that Arum played the media in order to obtain funding and a date for the Margarito fight