Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: Marquez Hurt Me, But It's Very Clear I Won

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Ledermans, Lampleys etc are people of HBO, they are paying to say such bull****, cuz if manny had lost there would never happen pac-Floyd. HBO is waiting for this fight (for big money), pacman just couldnt OFFICIALLY lose.

Pac/Floyd ain't happening because Bob Arum already made it clear that a 4th JMM fight is what he wants. I think it should be clear who doesn't want to make the Pac/Floyd fight and it is not Mayweather. This fight proves and shows alot to the world. Pac should have fought Floyd when he was on a dominate winning streak but now he just looks like a nothing victim and victory for Mayweather.

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I knew that Pac still would have problems with JMM. People and mainly his fans say that he improved because he was beaten battered fighters at catchweights who were slower than him. Marquez is a boxing technician and he proved it once again that he is the better all around boxer. Funny to hear Pac fans still trying to give Manny props for a fight that many feel Pac lost and this is more clear than the last fight in 2008. Marquez is 3 years older, moved up in weight where Pac was beating bigger guys up and still gave Pac all that he can handle. I think the Marquez that fought Floyd would have gave Pac problems because it's all about styles. Pac is open for the counter and a sucker for movement. His camp was saying how great Manny looked in training and how strong and ready he was and that he would get Marquez out in 6 rounds but now after his performance Pac all of a sudden had leg cramps? Same as the Mosley fight. Manny Pacquiao has been exposed and you don't have to be a ***** or a hater to see that Pac has not improved much and still is the same fighter but only looked dominate against guys who were already beat. Arum want to set up a 4th match to rob Marquez again? Manny should have lost bottomline but lets look at this as now JMM will officially go down as the better fighter who definitely won in the public's eye because what matters is that the people and fans know and it will go down in history as such. The judging robbed JMM. Arum ain't putting Manny in with Floyd and now I think for many it is clear that Floyd would beat Pac up and most likely stop him. People kept saying how JMM couldn't hang but look. I knew he would be a tough fight for Pac.

exactly, he's been lookin good cause he fights old shot fighters coming off losses, or at catchweight, ive said it forever now, as soon as pac fight a real boxer he will get exposed, and he did, even against a 38yo coming up from lightweight, Floyd would dance circles around this clown, at best pac would have a punchers chance if even that, AT BEST.

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Said it from the beginning

10-10-2011, 10:26 AM #98

Listen, while Pac may win this fight because of him being comfortable because of the weight. By no means will he school or destroy JMM. JMM has a nightmarish style for Manny Pacquiao and Pac ain't known for being a 1 punch KO artist, so don't know what people are talking about him KO'n JMM in 6 rounds when he could not do it at his best weight in 24rds with 4 kd's. I'm taking the loss to Floyd at 144 with a grain of salt because Floyd is a different kind of fighter/boxer. JMM could not properly touch Floyd because of his size, reach and defense while Pac doesn't have any of them advantages over Juan Manuel Marquez. On top of that. Pac hasn't been fighting the toughest most competitive challenges in the division(s) so lets give Juan Manuel Marquez some credit for being the only fighter to make Pac have to go all out.

It's not size but skill and while Pac may be stronger at that weight, I think skill is what gets you through a fight and frankly JMM is a better boxer technically than Pac when he fights his fight and not Pac's. I know most are crying foul with this fight but I'm going to give JMM the benefit of the doubt because of his skill set and ability to make Manny have to fight. I'm actually looking forward to this match because am curious to see how it transpires.

Old 10-09-2011, 08:33 PM #40

Manny can be and probably is stronger than JMM at this weight but how can you base that he will annihilate JMM when all Manny has been fighting are guys slower than him with no defense or real boxing technicality? Also, basing PAc will flatten JMM over the fact that Floyd made JMM look useless at 144 is not good enough proof because JMM fought Floyd and no one looks good against Mayweather. May have moments but eventually gets shut down. I think if JMM hasn't been KO already then he won't be if he fights Manny smart instead of letting his nuts hang. Manny may indeed win but I'm not going to say he destroys JMM considering styles make fights and JMM has always had a style to bother Pacquiao.

People probably ain't too enthused on Pac/Floyd no more because of what JMM did to Pac. It's a different between posting as a fan of the sport and just a fan boy. Pac has plenty of them. Arum will keep Pac away from Floyd and should definitely keep Pac away from Martinez. They might kill Manny in the ring.

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exactly, he's been lookin good cause he fights old shot fighters coming off losses, or at catchweight, ive said it forever now, as soon as pac fight a real boxer he will get exposed, and he did, even against a 38yo coming up from lightweight, Floyd would dance circles around this clown, at best pac would have a punchers chance if even that, AT BEST.

Pac has NO CHANCE. He probably would not even get more than 5 hits off Floyd per round. Pac so called power couldn't even get JMM out of there. Floyd would mopped Pac easy.

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Pacquiao lost. I admit it. I feel sorry for marquez

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I thought PAC didn't do what he said that he would do with the third fight, which was to win convincingly. IMO, Pacquiao

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How can manny say that? He should watch the replay and then make a statement and for bob arum its not just mainly mexicans who had marquez ahead pac couldn't handle marquez real talk!! Juan was the aggressor he don't have to be more active to win the decision when pac came in he countered effectively pac took that decision with his head down he knew it his family knew and his fans knew it just look at him he knew he lost.

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These guys disagree with you Pac:

From their twitter accounts:

Marvin Hagler "Disgusting result! #ROBBERY!"

Bernard Hopkins "FloydMayweather blow thru MannyPacquiao easy!!"

OscarDeLaHoya "I'm still sitting on my couch in disbelief. Paquiao cannot compete with a counter puncher like Marquez. Juan has the Patience to wait and capitalize on mistakes. I think this shows how superior mayweather is."

Andre Dirrell "Ok after this fight, I don't know what 2 think! Did JMM just have a good night, or did Pacman put on a great possum show 2 get MW! U TELL ME. GO GET YO GLOVES ON AND COME WHOOP THIS DUDE!!!! PACMAN CAN'T SEE YOU!!!"

ZAB JUDAH "Robbery!!!!"

Steve Cunningham "All pro fighters I know ,guys which know what to look 4 in a fight had jmm winning. It's not just entertainment to us its a #lifestyle#"

Anthonydirrell "If y'all think that they was bout to lose out on 150 million y'all crazy"

Matthew Macklin "It was close but still wrong...and for it to happen THREE times!!!!!?? WTF!!!"

Andre S.O.G. Ward "Well, I was wrong. Marquez is boxing a masterful fight. Marquez won this fight, period!!"

Terry Norris "Wow! Thought PAC man would win. But clearly Marquez was robbed again. PAC did NOT win this fight."

Andre Berto "Smh WOW..... Come on u know Top Rank was gonna let Marquez **** the money up!!! Great fight though"

Omar Henry "Wow I just watched Pacquiao get beat and Marquez get robbed!!!! and yes I was one of the people in the crowd booing the robbery!!!!"

Chris Arreola "Marquez won, true champ. Let's see Mayweather-Pacquiao. ****."

Rashad Holloway "I'm team Pacquiao all day but Marquez won this fight hands down. Sad to see how politics run this sport when fighters work so hard."

Fernando Vargas "Well I'm DISGUSTED at tonight's event. It's sad that u can TRAIN your butt off for months and get jobbed at the end of the day! Truth is that EVERYWHERE Marquez goes EVERYONE will tell him that he WAS ROBBED & HELL FEEL LIKE HE WON BECUZ HE REALLY DID!!! SAME FOR PACMAN. EVERYWHERE HE GOES PEOPLE WILL TELL HIM HE REALLY LOST AND HE GOT A GIFT!!! LOVE THIS SPORT. But this is a SAD MOMENT FOR ME.
#LongLiveDinamitaMarquez"

Juan Diaz "Great fight for the boxung fans but bad decision by the judges."

Amir Khan "mayb a good draw or marquez by 1-2 rounds."

Anthony Mundine "I luv PAC too...but he lost fair & square...but I'm sure he will return stronger...PAC v Marquez 4 #bringit. Actually I change my mind! Marquez deserves the pay day v money!! As he was really the victor! Don't think I wanna see 4. Even tho money."

Erik Morales "Nos robaroooon y feo. Marquez total reconocimiento es el segundo mexicano que le pone en su madre a pacquiao, gano y gano muy bien felicidadees!" Which translates to English as "They robbed us and it was an ugly robbery too. To Marquez total recognition, he is the second Mexican to beat the **** out of Pacquiao, he won and he won nicely. Congratulations!"

Jean Pascal "On my card Marquez WON!!!!"

Kendall Holt "If u thought Pacman won or if Marquez needed the 12th to win its clear u don't know ish about this sport."

Peter Manfredo Jr. "Wow, after watching this, I better not leave it to the judges next week!!!"

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this kinda sucks to be honest...I was thinking pac would dominate jmm and then fight floyd in the next 4 or 5 months...after watching jmm doing this to pac one can imagine what floyd would do to him...now I don't really want to watch floyd vs pacquiao...easy fight for floyd.

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JMM, we love you bro. Thanx for a good fight & for really trying. A draw would be nice, but Pac winning is justified as well. You did really good that’s true. But you’re the challenger going up against the King of Boxing. You gotta do better than edging out by points to win. It’s how the game works bro. You have the right to complain, just don’t sour-g**** it throughout your life time.

And for those who think other-wiser don't know **** about how the game works.