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    Originally posted by hypodermical View Post
    pac landed more punches and won more rounds, plain and simple. you're a real moron if you think that since it was another close fight that pac got schooled. marquez is expected to be the better boxer, yet pac still outpointed him. pac fought marquez's fight and still outpointed him.

    marquez performed better than anyone expected, way better. that doesnt mean he won the actual fight. you're a moron because you can't realize the fact that marquez had to outperform his opponent, and not himself to win a fight.

    pac won a VERY close fight. only pac haters and marquez fans think otherwise. they think just because jmm gave pac another war, that he should win the fight automatically.
    Very few knowledgeable observers think that Pacquiao won that fight.

    Find me a fighter who thinks that Manny won, because most fighters who commented on the bout stated that Marquez won, and some even used the word robbery...... even Pac's stable-mates both think that Marquez won.

    In fact, I am pretty sure that you are the very last person on the face of the planet earth who still insists that your god Manny won the fight

    Even Jinkee knows who won that fight

    The best result that Pac could have hoped for was a 115-113 loss.

    Marquez 3-0.

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      Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
      Very few knowledgeable observers think that Pacquiao won that fight.

      Find me a fighter who thinks that Manny won, because most fighters who commented on the bout stated that Marquez won, and some even used the word robbery...... even Pac's stable-mates both think that Marquez won.

      In fact, I am pretty sure that you are the very last person on the face of the planet earth who still insists that your god Manny won the fight

      Even Jinkee knows who won that fight

      The best result that Pac could have hoped for was a 115-113 loss.

      Marquez 3-0.

      It is the effect of all the expectations before the fight. Marquez only lost by a point or 2, IMO. I think everyone was just so shocked at how well JMM performed, when everyone expected this to be a one sided match.

      Im pretty sure all the announcers, lampley, kellerman and steward thought the same thing; it was a close fight that could have arguably gone either way, but no robbery. JMM didn't take the victory and coasted in the later rounds, while pac consistently worked.

      I had it Pac 115-113 after 2 views.

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        Originally posted by hypodermical View Post
        pac won a VERY close fight. only pac haters and marquez fans think otherwise. .
        You're hilarious. The vast majority of Pacquiao fans, including Pinoys, who have posted, have said that they thought Marquez won, and many of them said they thought he won by a landslide. So by your weird logic, the majority of Pac fans, including Pinoys, are Pac haters.

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          Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
          Very few knowledgeable observers think that Pacquiao won that fight.

          Find me a fighter who thinks that Manny won, because most fighters who commented on the bout stated that Marquez won, and some even used the word robbery...... even Pac's stable-mates both think that Marquez won.

          In fact, I am pretty sure that you are the very last person on the face of the planet earth who still insists that your god Manny won the fight

          Even Jinkee knows who won that fight

          The best result that Pac could have hoped for was a 115-113 loss.

          Marquez 3-0.
          Even Roach thought Marquez won.

          But as for your 3-0 you're pushing it. The first two fights were genuinely extremely close and you could validly score them either way. Not so this time.

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            Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
            Chill dude, the odds you quoted are nothing but a pipe-dream.

            You are FKN DREAMING if you think that before the Marquez fight yesterday, the odds for Pac/May would favor Manny by 7-1

            May would have been the betting favorite by first bell, no question.

            Now, it will likely be 7-1 in favor of Floyd.
            Dude, you misread my post. I didn't say 7/1 in favor of Floyd. I said from 3/1 up to 6 or 7/1. I know7/1 would have been stretching it but you can't blame a guy for pipe dreaming. But my point was, I DO believe Pac would have been the betting favorite if he hadn't made a poor showing last night against Marquez. With Pac being pound for pound king and all a lot of folks would have bet him to beat Mayweather. Now they will remember how convincingly Mayweather beat Marquez and I don't think they'll risk betting huge sums on Pacman. So now Mayweather will become the betting favorite and I won't make the huge amount of money I anticiipated with Pac being the betting favorite.
            Last edited by bbwoof2000; 11-13-2011, 09:30 PM.

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              Originally posted by Toyman View Post
              thats fairly obvious...

              as pac said, he was catching most of jmm punches with his gloves,

              and i do think pac won

              ill watch it againn when its up on youtube but theres no way jmm won 7 rounds now....come on ppl.....


              pac won at least 6 [and imo 7-8] rounds.


              Lol ******* is one hellaluv of a drug

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                I watched it again 2 times and had it the same way, giving rounds 2, 5, 8, 9 and 11 to JMM. I gotta say tho, rounds 6 thru 9 were all real swing rounds and very hard to score, or were probably scored on what the judges preferences were.

                Donīt forget, three judges had three different results, but none had it for JMM, so even though he did land some clear and crisp hands, his overall backpedaling/ counterpunching style seemingly wasnīt enough for him in the eyes of the judges to take the championship from Manny.

                I agree that there was a predominant notion of Manny being a huge favorite in this fight, due to the weight and maybe also due to how JMM was shut out against Mayweather at the higher weight, maybe also due to his age... But:

                1. JMM had 24 rounds of experience vs Manny and

                2. Styles. Make. Fights.

                Give all the credit in the world to JMM for his performance, he did a great job, it just wasnīt quite enough to win the championship.

                I for one would have loved for this fight to be made instead of the BORING Clottey fight. Would have been a better time, and we would be closer to you-know-which fight.

                For the record: NO ***** or ******* here. I just wanna see them get it on, so *****s and/ or *******s are hopefully shut up for good.

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                  The same thing happened to felix Strum when he fought Oscar de Hoya Felix won the fight but they gave it to De La Hoya because everybody wanted to see Hopkins vs Hoya so Marquez got Felix Sturm because the world wants to watch Pacman vs Mayweather what you gonna do it's boxing baby.

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                    no love

                    its a cold world

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                      I am a pac fan, and our office based in phillipines had a live streaming of the fight. Everybody stops working during the fight. At the start of 6th round, almost everybody is feeling that pac is going to lose. Marquez is landing accurate and cleaner punches and clearly outboxing pac. After the bell rang in the 12th round, almost everybody had accepted that pacman lost the fight. When the decision was anounced that pacman won, everybody was disgusted because it was clearly a robbery specially with one judje scoring 116 to 112. A lot of Filipinos feel for marquez, he should have won that fight. Pac deserves the booing. Even Ronnie Nathanielz is dissapointed with result and thought that marquez clearly won the fight from a TV interview.

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