Seems like a lot of the young fighters these days have zero inside fighting game. why

[ИATAS]

Has anyone else noticed that? So many young talents these days seem to lack an inside game. It's usually fight from a distance, then tie up once they get close or simply push off and move away. No inside fighting. There are a few exceptions here and there, but I've noticed it a lot recently. I blame the terrible amateur system that rewards guys to basically pot shot, score a few points then stay away till the round is over.

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[Steak]

its partially the amateur system and the scoring.

but another thing is the referees. The second the fighters start to tie up, they tell them not to fight and break them. a lot of fighters simply grab and theyre out of the danger zone on the inside, it spoils them. theres no reason for them to learn to fight there when they dont have to because of dumbass refs.

referees need to let fighters fight their way out of a clinch. and if a guy is excessively holding, which is illegal, they need to warn them and dock a point. but nowadays the only illegal thing about holding is if you hold and hit, which is bull****. clinching should be looked at just as illegal as holding and hitting.

[ИATAS]

Good points! there is a huge amount of inconsistencies when it comes to refs, that's for damn sure. I see some (good) refs always say "punch out of it" (referring to a clinch) and that's great, then there is the extreme opposite like Joe Cortiz who breaks as soon as arms touch.

I wish there was a way where boxing could clean that up and make reffing more consistent. But that's the problem of not having a central boxing commission to overlook the entire sport, like say the NFL who constantly try and make the refs consistent.

[joseph5620]

Has anyone else noticed that? So many young talents these days seem to lack an inside game. It's usually fight from a distance, then tie up once they get close or simply push off and move away. No inside fighting. There are a few exceptions here and there, but I've noticed it a lot recently. I blame the terrible amateur system that rewards guys to basically pot shot, score a few points then stay away till the round is over.

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Wladimir Klitschko doesn't have one either.

[AntonTheMeh]

its partially the amateur system and the scoring.

but another thing is the referees. The second the fighters start to tie up, they tell them not to fight and break them. a lot of fighters simply grab and theyre out of the danger zone on the inside, it spoils them. theres no reason for them to learn to fight there when they dont have to because of dumbass refs.

referees need to let fighters fight their way out of a clinch. and if a guy is excessively holding, which is illegal, they need to warn them and dock a point. but nowadays the only illegal thing about holding is if you hold and hit, which is bull****. clinching should be looked at just as illegal as holding and hitting.

this pretty much.

[Pullcounter]

in-fighting is a lost art... some mofos think running around the ring and potshotting is the epitome of ring craft and boxing skill... they think in-fighting is some kind of crude tough-man style...

what I notice is that a lot of boxers today aren't really skilled, they just are very athletic and skilled enough to use their athleticism. their athleticism allows them to avoid fighting on the inside, so they never really learn to fight at that distance and feel uncomfortable at that distance because they don't like blocking shots with their arms or moving their heads to evade punches. They rather use their legs to get out of range, which is a skill in itself, but one of many skills a fighter should have in their tool box.

nowadays boxers just focus on a few tools and are not well rounded.

[bose]

Could also be who the fighter looks up too and imitate. Even a great boxer in Floyd can fight in the inside but does so very cautiously.

I do think too many fighters grew up watching Roy and Floyd and try to immulate them.

At the end of the day though you have to fault the coachs who at an early age show the young boxer the tools he needs in a boxing ring to win.

And maybe today, the boxing coachs or today are not teaching the "inside game" of boxing.

[Dedication]

You can't blame it entirely on the amateur system; Andre Ward is a decorated amateur and gold medal Olympian, who is also a good inside fighter.

[bose]

in-fighting is a lost art... some mofos think running around the ring and potshotting is the epitome of ring craft and boxing skill... they think in-fighting is some kind of crude tough-man style...

what I notice is that a lot of boxers today aren't really skilled, they just are very athletic and skilled enough to use their athleticism. their athleticism allows them to avoid fighting on the inside, so they never really learn to fight at that distance and feel uncomfortable at that distance because they don't like blocking shots with their arms or moving their heads to evade punches. They rather use their legs to get out of range, which is a skill in itself, but one of many skills a fighter should have in their tool box.

nowadays boxers just focus on a few tools and are not well rounded.

Great post!

[gatorDelux]

in-fighting is a lost art... some mofos think running around the ring and potshotting is the epitome of ring craft and boxing skill... they think in-fighting is some kind of crude tough-man style...

what I notice is that a lot of boxers today aren't really skilled, they just are very athletic and skilled enough to use their athleticism. their athleticism allows them to avoid fighting on the inside, so they never really learn to fight at that distance and feel uncomfortable at that distance because they don't like blocking shots with their arms or moving their heads to evade punches. They rather use their legs to get out of range, which is a skill in itself, but one of many skills a fighter should have in their tool box.

nowadays boxers just focus on a few tools and are not well rounded.

great post

my thoughts exactly


and nice ****