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    Originally posted by iNDOLiFER View Post
    im not doubting floyd's power, i know for a fact that manny punches harded than floyd and thats a FACT. im not saying floyd doesnt have KO power im just saying between floyd and manny, manny has the upper hand in power. and again i know floyd is great at what he does but like i mention before over and over u're counting manny out by saying oh floyd knows how to do this and that as if manny doesnt? floyd can dance around in the ring throw a few here and there but mark my word manny will land and when he does we'll see how floyd deals with manny's power.
    Manny may hit harder than Floyd but Pac has to hit Floyd and Floyd don't get hit much and when he does he handles it well. Floyd would counter Manny to death trying to come in swinging all wild. Pac is a good fighter but technically he would get lost in the ring with Floyd. Come forward, aggressive fighters are good for Manny because they keep their hands down and chins out giving Pac the advantage because of his speed but against Mayweather, Pac doesn't have a big speed advantage or defense to keep Floyd from connecting on him accurately. Pac beat up on Cotto to the last round and Margarito to the end so that shows he is an accumulative fighter and I'm 100% sure that Floyd ain't going to let Manny beat up on him for 12 rounds. IF the fight ever happens I see Floyd taking it by UD and if he turns it up stoppage. I remember when Pac fought JMM the 2nd time and JMM was waiting and timing Pac, Manny looked lost because his opponents have to initiate the fight for him to be effective. Mosley had him confused with movement. Imagine Floyd.
    Last edited by GRUSTLER; 09-01-2011, 04:54 PM.

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      Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
      Oscar's already got an extra set of fishnet stockings his lil bro Ortiz can borrow.
      Lol,now that's real funny stuff there

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        Duckboy is screwed.

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          Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
          Manny may hit harder than Floyd but Pac has to hit Floyd and Floyd don't get hit much and when he does he handles it well. Floyd would counter Manny to death trying to come in swinging all wild. Pac is a good fighter but technically he would get lost in the ring with Floyd. Come forward, aggressive fighters are good for Manny because they keep their hands down and chins out giving Pac the advantage because of his speed but against Mayweather, Pac doesn't have a big speed advantage or defense to keep Floyd from connecting on him accurately. Pac beat up on Cotto to the last round and Margarito to the end so that shows he is an accumulative fighter and I'm 100% sure that Floyd ain't going to let Manny beat up on him for 12 rounds. IF the fight ever happens I see Floyd taking it by UD and if he turns it up stoppage. I remember when Pac fought JMM the 2nd time and JMM was waiting and timing Pac, Manny looked lost because his opponents have to initiate the fight for him to be effective. Mosley had him confused with movement. Imagine Floyd.
          So many people write off that fight and rightfully so because on May 2nd 2010 everyone said Mosley was old. The Mosley vs Pac fight displayed 2 things;
          A. That Pac fought an old and slow Mosley who was not a champion or winning anymore.
          B. That old and slow Mosley had Pac confused by not coming forward and fighting as Team Pac intispated him to do.

          Its something he has ALWAYS done. When he didnt do it, Pac was left confused, running around like a chicken with his head cut off. The fight was horribly boring and a complete EPIC fail on Team Pac for cherry picking a recycled FORMER CHAMPION coming off 2 of his WORST performances of his career (like Hoya, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito). They were hoping for Mosley to fight and when he didnt Pac looked a fool. Mosley just looked like the guy we told to retire after the Mayweather fight. No surprise.

          The key point certain biased fans tend to look over is that Mosley was really slow and had no legs. Imagine when Mayweather is in there with Pac and NOT engaging but countering with more speed and more accuracy with legs to move?

          Like I said years ago, Mayweather will play a brilliant boring game of chess while Pac will be attmepting to play checkers. Two very respectable games just on two completely different levels. Pac will be clowned when Mayweather does NOT fight but counter wisely.

          Like I said years ago, after Floyd clowns pac, boxing fans will be left pissed off, feeling cheated, and more hate built up that they will write Pac off and call Floyd a coward for cherry picking yet another smaller fighter and that Floyd's ducking (insert name) and the cycle repeats it self. I've seen it. I know. Been here and done it several times. Its fascinating. Yet the best part is seeing the fans of Floyd's oppostion disappear. Worst part? "New" fans come along and repeat the same shyt. lol
          Last edited by WESS; 09-07-2011, 06:28 PM.

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            LMAO,Oh Hoya ya never get old...

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