Originally posted by sfdmalex
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I Changed my Mind! I think Vitali Will be KOd!
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Id still pick him to beat Wlad.
Originally posted by masterdirectorI definitely stand behind that Toney one. I mean there's no shame in him losing to any heavyweight (within reason) imo. Now, if he goes losing to ****head mc**** or something, that's one thing, but losing to a top 10 heavyweight, well...he's a former middleweight, and only royce da 5'9 tall.
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Originally posted by Rodgers=BustId still pick him to beat Wlad.
Do you really think Wlad would loose to Toney? No disrespect to Toney, he is a great fighter, but he is no heavy. He doesnt have enough pop to KO Wlad, and he's 5 foot 9 for petes sake. Wlad is like a foot taller then him, so is Vitali.
Toney not being a heavy handed puncher at heavyweight even with guys his own size, will hit anyone at 6 foot 7 like Byrd.
Its basics physics man. Toneys hand would have to travel a long way to reach either Klitschkos chin, and by the time it would reach there it wouldnt have as much pop as it would against someone Toneys own height.
And honestly I dont see him winning on points. So I really dont know were you get your prediction from.
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Originally posted by masterdirectorI definitely stand behind that Toney one. I mean there's no shame in him losing to any heavyweight (within reason) imo. Now, if he goes losing to ****head mc**** or something, that's one thing, but losing to a top 10 heavyweight, well...he's a former middleweight, and only royce da 5'9 tall.
I mean, pick one side. Dont say he'll beat the **** out of Vitali then come back saying that Toney is a former middleweight, old 5'9".....
Why not just say this for example "I think Toney has the skills to beat Vitali, but him being much shorter, and being out of his real division I can see it go either way" that way you dont look like a moron incase your boy does get beat.
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Look at my sig. Thats how Id like to see Wlad finish the fight.
Originally posted by sfdmalexYou picked Wlad to loose to Wlads well, worst nightmare, a tank of a human. Peter is basicly the most dangerous opponent Wlad could ever face. A heavy handed machine of a man.
Do you really think Wlad would loose to Toney? No disrespect to Toney, he is a great fighter, but he is no heavy. He doesnt have enough pop to KO Wlad, and he's 5 foot 9 for petes sake. Wlad is like a foot taller then him, so is Vitali.
Toney not being a heavy handed puncher at heavyweight even with guys his own size, will hit anyone at 6 foot 7 like Byrd.
Its basics physics man. Toneys hand would have to travel a long way to reach either Klitschkos chin, and by the time it would reach there it wouldnt have as much pop as it would against someone Toneys own height.
And honestly I dont see him winning on points. So I really dont know were you get your prediction from.
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I can definitely see Toney beating those guys. Size or no size, they'd have to land on Toney, which is a lot easier said than done. Just look at the Guinn fight. Sure, Toney would have a time landing too, but not as much as you think I don't think. Toney doesn't have to hit the top of their heads, just their chins. Toney clearly has a better chin than Wlad. He'd definitely eventually land on Wlad, and I'd see him landing a lot of Wlad really, and that'd mean a for sure knockout.
Vitali, he'd probably have to beat on points because he isn't going to have all that power. That'd probably be Toney's toughest challenge just because of Vitali's height.
People are quick to underestimate great countering. Toney is the best counterer, besides Mayweather, in all of boxing today.
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Originally posted by Rodgers=BustLook at my sig. Thats how Id like to see Wlad finish the fight.
You do realize that everyone knows that when you ignore the whole post you loose the argument? Or does your dumb ****** ass not get that? I guess not.
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Dude, get off that haterade. It aint good for ya health. Ya heard?
Wlad is vulnerable to anybody with decent power.
Actually this is how Id like to see Wlad to be honest:
Originally posted by sfdmalexYour a dumb ****, what does that have to do with my post you white boy peice of ****.
You do realize that everyone knows that when you ignore the whole post you loose the argument? Or does your dumb ****** ass not get that? I guess not.
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Originally posted by masterdirectorI can definitely see Toney beating those guys. Size or no size, they'd have to land on Toney, which is a lot easier said than done. Just look at the Guinn fight. Sure, Toney would have a time landing too, but not as much as you think I don't think. Toney doesn't have to hit the top of their heads, just their chins. Toney clearly has a better chin than Wlad. He'd definitely eventually land on Wlad, and I'd see him landing a lot of Wlad really, and that'd mean a for sure knockout.
Vitali, he'd probably have to beat on points because he isn't going to have all that power. That'd probably be Toney's toughest challenge just because of Vitali's height.
People are quick to underestimate great countering. Toney is the best counterer, besides Mayweather, in all of boxing today.
If you ask me, its a mismatch. Toney should not even be in heavy. He is just too short IMO.
Anyway boxing is boxing and anything can happen.
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