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    #71
    Originally posted by QADASHBANYAH View Post
    IN ALL HONESTY SOME PEOPLES BODY CAN SIMPLY DO THAT. I honestly dont think it was hurting ortiz much, ortiz is a man of the streets, homeless etc, it was all for the money for him..... He probably thought it was something all boxers dealt with...

    Alot of boxers simply dont understand the science of the body, as berto just stated, he didnt know he was anemic, and it makes sense that he wouldnt. He saw himself cut up and felt he was in perfect shape..... Not realizing working some muscles doesnt mean you are in shape... He wasnt even eating correctly and neither was ortiz.......

    It was just something they dealt with. They needed the money. WASNT it in an article that ORTIZ's trainer was still working for coke??? With a full time job it would be hard pressed for his trainer to really know whats best as he works around his other job.....driving for coke.....

    I dont think ortiz was struggling...
    Exactly so no way should anyone really use the draining or struggling to make 140 as an excuse for his inconsistencies at said weight-class.

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      #72
      wait what is up with his trainer i didn't hear that

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        #73
        One picture? Mannyscene!!!

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          #74
          cool....Vic looks like he's been puttin that work in...hope he does well but I got him getting stopped

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            #75
            Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post
            Dec 11th, 2010

            Victor Ortiz (right) and Lamont Peterson connected on 21 percent (95 of 457) and 33 percent (111 of 331) of their punches, respectively, according to CompuBox statistics. Photo / Naoki ***uda


            LAS VEGAS -- Victor Ortiz and Lamont Peterson fought to a majority draw in a 10-round junior welterweight bout on the Amir Khan-Marcos Maidana undercard Saturday at Mandalay Bay.

            Ortiz (28-3-1, 22 knockouts) was the aggressor throughout but had difficulty landing clean punches against a very good defensive fighter.

            The Oxnard, Calif., had his best moment in the third round, when he dropped Peterson twice, once with a left-left-right combination and again as a result of a flurry that sent him flying against the ropes.

            The 10-7 round salvaged the draw for Ortiz.
            Yhis what I was talking about on another forum. Ortiz is a good "fighter" fun to watch,but he is still too green for a Mayweather fight.Ortiz lacks defense,and is a bit on the slow slide and seem to tire at the last few rounds.Ortiz has had only 2 world class fights(and he lost one) and the other was Berto. Unless he some how manages to get one of those hard shots in early and capitalize on it ,Ortiz will be picked apart and outclassed(I hope I am wrong)

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              #76
              Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
              cool....Vic looks like he's been puttin that work in...hope he does well but I got him getting stopped
              I would not be surprised if this happened..

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                #77
                You see the problem is.. Victors body at 24 is really ready to fill in an grow as a man and his natural weight seems to be about 175 possibly more.. at this point it will be hard for Victor to shed those extra ten without draining because he's been training for a while an is still around 160, if Vic wants to stay at WW he needs to stay either below or at 160 yr round, he is letting his weight go to far up between fights which is why Floyd labeled him undisciplined u see what happened to Hatton, Oscar and Lopez they did the same thing got tired and got Koed. Vic will be live early and will tire late and him being 24 won't mean a thing...

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                  I still don't understand if Ortiz was truly drained at JWW and killing himself to make weight. Why would he asked Berto for a catch-weight fight?

                  It just makes no sense.
                  True.

                  It made no sense to Ortiz either when he was asked about that in an interview.

                  Same as the 153lb agreement for Cotto/Marg.

                  WTF?

                  Completely unnecessary and pointless.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    Exactly so no way should anyone really use the draining or struggling to make 140 as an excuse for his inconsistencies at said weight-class.
                    So, Pac wasn't drained at flyweight ?

                    And, Freddie Roach, among other boxing insiders, were all wrong when they stated years ago that Ortiz was a natural welter and was killing himself to make 140?

                    Im gonna go with Freddie, and the fact that it looks absolutely impossible for Ortiz to make 140 now, and yet his last bout at JWW was just over 6 months ago.

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                      #80
                      wasn't it in april?

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