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    #31
    Nah I think Pacquiao and Maidana punch harder.

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      #32
      no way! berto was no where near more powerful! Ortiz was hurting Berto almost every round! I would say Maidana then Pacman then ortiz. I think khan stops opponents with more volume than power.

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        #33
        Originally posted by ablindwatchmakr View Post
        I really don't think Kermit will ever be a factor again though. What do you and Rosales think as far as top fighters of the division? Who are the top 5 guys in terms of power that are either champions or in title contention?
        If we just talking about top 5....combining both divisions...

        In no order

        Mayweather
        Pacquiao
        Khan
        Bradley
        Ortiz

        Then the debate would be between just Pac and Ortiz.

        If we looking at just title holders and world champions combining both divisions

        Mayweather
        Pacquiao
        Bradley
        Khan
        Ortiz
        Zaveck
        Senchenko

        Then the argument will be between Pac and Ortiz.

        And, I will give the edge on Pac in that one.

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          #34
          Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
          If we just talking about top 5....combining both divisions...

          In no order

          Mayweather
          Pacquiao
          Khan
          Bradley
          Ortiz

          Then the debate would be between just Pac and Ortiz.

          If we looking at just title holders and world champions combining both divisions

          Mayweather
          Pacquiao
          Bradley
          Khan
          Ortiz
          Zaveck
          Senchenko

          Then the argument will be between Pac and Ortiz.

          And, I will give the edge on Pac in that one.

          Okay I can see that. Just trying to get a consensus on this.

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            #35
            Floyd Mayweather ruins fighters careers!

            Nah but I say Maidana

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              #36
              No, I haven't see Ortiz hurt anyone like Pacquiao has hurt Cotto, Margarito, and Hatton. Pacquiao is a beast, and so is Maidana.

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                #37
                Pacquiao hits harder than Ortiz.

                Who thinks Lamont Peterson would go ten rounds with Manny? Peterson is a sparring partner at best.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by LegendOfLink View Post
                  No, I haven't see Ortiz hurt anyone like Pacquiao has hurt Cotto, Margarito, and Hatton. Pacquiao is a beast, and so is Maidana.
                  He did stagger Margarito in the later rounds--I'd completely forgotten that. Hatton was the result of accumulated damage though, since avoiding punches was beyond him in that fight. Pacquiao landed 65 power punches inside those two rounds.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    I honestly think Mike Jones hits harder than Ortiz as well.

                    Bailey is the main power puncher in both divisions.

                    I would say Pac hits harder as well...

                    Ortiz does hit hard though.

                    And, Berto doesn't have a glass jaw don't be ridiculous. But, his chin is not made or iron either.


                    Floyd Sr has mentioned that Mike Jones is an incredibly hard hitter with both hands when he worked the mitts with him, going as far to say that he hits harder than the hitman, which is ridiculous, but he must hit quite hard.

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                      #40
                      manny would be the obvious answer to this. i would say ortiz is second, but there's a lot of 140 lb fighters that can be heavier hitters than they are now once they move up to 147.

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