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    Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
    You really want a math lesson don't you~


    That is not their actual average for punches landed, it is a flawed statistic.

    For example not looking at the real numbers just using some basic ones

    Say a guy lands 70%, 30% and 50%

    He land 70% out of 200 (like in an early knock out)

    30% out of 1200 (like in a fight where he outworked another guy)

    And then land 50% out of 750 (like in a fight where he landed well but had his output limited)

    You are saying that guy lands 50%

    140+360+375=875
    200+1200+750=2150

    Now I should not have to go on because even a simpleton should realize 875 isn't half of 2150 but I will go on~

    875/2150= .407 or 41% if you want to be nice with rounding~
    Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
    I didn't make this thread~ I didn't bump this thread. I don't really use +/- as any sort of basis of anything.

    This is about accuracy overall, total numbers matter because the larger the sample the more telling the numbers~

    I like my stats to be based on reality, not wishful thinking.
    Jesus thread backfired hard on TS. These guys really do need some education. I guess that's why they're hardcore fanboys.

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      I see this as a RELATIVE issue.

      • Mayweather's punches are to the point, meaning he punches as he wills it.

      • Pacquiao's combinations are towards an effect, meaning, there are preceding punches for you to "respond" to as a lead inorder for him to set up for the bigger punches coming - set up.

      If one sees Pacquiao's punches against Margs and Clottey for example, he would "tap" their gloves to get an effect, then surge through with his LEFT. Obviously not always but he does this many times.

      Thus the VOLUME PUNCHING of Pacquiao as part of his strategy of attacking EN MASSE...whereas Mayweather carefully picks his punches with economy and precision.

      IN the end, Accuracy is a subjective terminology mainly due to the boxers' intention and strategy involved.

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        Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
        Looks like Pacquiao is more accurate than Floyd again


        Pacquiao

        Marquez 43%
        Molsey 50%
        Margarito 58%
        Clottey 34%
        Cotto 49%
        Hatton 62%

        Six fight Average 49.3%

        Mayweather


        Cotto 34%
        Ortiz 49%
        Mosley 46%
        Marquez 59%
        Hatton 39%
        De La Hoya 57%



        Six fight average 47.3%


        Scientific proof that Manny is more acurate than Mayweather.
        lol why are you doing this to yourself man just concede the point and never ever bump this thread again

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          Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
          Tell that to compubox, they use the same method I do, fool.
          Please provide the link where compubox calculates connect percentage over a series of fights as an unweighted average? And if it did, you appear to be too simple-minded not to see a problem with that. You don't see that a one-punch knockout (100% connect percentage for that flight ) would unduly inflate the average, leading to a misleading connect percentage?
          Last edited by chike99; 05-06-2012, 04:28 PM.

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            Originally posted by chike99 View Post
            Please provide the link where compubox calculates connect percentage over a series of fights as an unweighted average? And it it did, you appear to be too simple-minded not to see a problem with that. You don't see that a one-punch knockout (100% connect percentage for that flight ) would unduly inflate the average, leading to a misleading connect percentage?
            //krikya360.com/compubox-...ighters--52564

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              Originally posted by fabie View Post
              I see this as a RELATIVE issue.

              • Mayweather's punches are to the point, meaning he punches as he wills it.

              • Pacquiao's combinations are towards an effect, meaning, there are preceding punches for you to "respond" to as a lead inorder for him to set up for the bigger punches coming - set up.

              If one sees Pacquiao's punches against Margs and Clottey for example, he would "tap" their gloves to get an effect, then surge through with his LEFT. Obviously not always but he does this many times.

              Thus the VOLUME PUNCHING of Pacquiao as part of his strategy of attacking EN MASSE...whereas Mayweather carefully picks his punches with economy and precision.

              IN the end, Accuracy is a subjective terminology mainly due to the boxers' intention and strategy involved.
              Throwing combos and being more active should lower your accuracy as it did with Mayweather's last light, but Pacquiao who throws a ton of combos and can throw a thousand punches a fight or more still has the higher accuracy.

              Pacquiao also throws with more power which should lower accuracy but not for Manny.

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                Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                Ok you are a boxing genius, tell us what a jab is used for in boxing?
                Is that counting jabs or not?

                Don't duck the question.

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                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                  The point is Pacquiao is the more accurate puncher, but some believe Floyd is some kind of sharp shooting genius that hardly misses and Pacquiao just throws loads of punches and a few land.


                  Dispelling the myths.
                  no one has said that so whats the point with these mayweather/pacman threads! getting tiring now.

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                    Originally posted by stilltharow View Post
                    no one has said that so whats the point with these mayweather/pacman threads! getting tiring now.
                    Yes they have, Some people liking Mayweather's punching to a sniper rifle and Pacquiao's to an AK47.

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                      Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                      Like I said, typical Pacta*d, giving misleading information. The link you provided does NOT calculate connect percentages the way you did. Although it does not explicitly describe how, it does say that "Mayweather connected on 46% of his TOTAL punches over his last 9 fights" (I am paraphrasing). This suggests that they calculated connect percentages as the number of punches landed divided by the number of punches thrown over 9 fights - a correct method. Notice that Pacquia is only at 38%, so you are trying to use uneducated calculations to mislead as to how he is better. Typical Pacta*d. The link you provided exposed your ignorance.
                      Last edited by chike99; 05-06-2012, 04:50 PM.

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