Comments Thread For: Roach: If Mayweather Beats Ortiz, Pacquiao is Waiting

[BoxingGenius27]

i think it's more than that. they feel it's their civic duty to defend pacquiao because he's filipino like they are. people will do and say anything for the sake of their nationality and flag. it's a dumb concept that i never got.

But it's more than just the filipino's. Now a days these *******s come in all shapes, races, sizes, and forms.

[John Barron]

But it's more than just the filipino's. Now a days these *******s come in all shapes, races, sizes, and forms.

yeah, that's true too but those people (extremely casual fans) generally don't linger around boxing forums or youtube trashing everyone with the might of the philippines. me personally, the bulk of hardcore *******s i've been in the trenches with have all been filipino / filipino-americans.

[LeadUppercut]

Lead -A) The lawsuit is not a joke. It is defamation of character on a large scale and THAT is the reason the judge did not throw it out. B) If Marquez gives Pac a great fight, will you admit that you were wrong about Marquez? I will admit I am wrong if Pac stops him easy. C) You did read where I did not critisize the choice of Ortiz, but praised it, right?

The lawsuit is an absolute fkn joke, no question about it, and I have already explained why.....

Since the dirty Olympics, anybody who quibbles over random blood testing has been instantly branded a drug cheat. Pac is being ridiculous if he did not think that his refusal would result in steroid accusations.

In fact, Pac is not being ridiculous at all, his fans are.

Why ?

Because when Manny refused the random blood testing, Freddie Roach publicly admitted that people would naturally find that su****ious.

So if Freddie and Manny knew that, and they did, because it was obvious..... it seems kinda silly to cry about it now, and even more ridiculous to resolve the situation by initiating legal action.

Pacquiao is 100% to blame, and Mayweather is not to blame at all. OSDT's are completely harmless, should be mandatory, and cannot be frowned upon or dismissed. Random blood testing should not be an issue, and should never be the reason why a fight of that magnitude did not happen.

* Mayweather took the test, he is clean, he got paid.
* Mosley took the test, he is clean, he got paid.
* Ortiz will take the test, he will be clean, and he will get paid.
* Manny.....

Let me give you an example. I read about an absurd situation in the US recently. Some woman successfully sued a department store because she slipped on some water..... that had been spilt by her own daughter

Manny KNEW that the OSDT refusal would spark public su****ion, and now he wants to sue Mayweather

Fkn ridiculous. I could never live in the US, if some arsewipe sued me for some dribble like that, I would ensure that his day in court was significantly more spectacular, but he would likely only read what happened in a transcript. Fkn absurd sue-happy country.

Once, in a game of rugby, I heard of a referee that threatened a player. The guy had just been punched and was picking himself up off the deck when the ref pointed a finger at him and said "if that guy hits you again, you're getting sent off". I bet NONE of you guys even understand what happened there

Fair call about the Marquez fight, I agree to that, and will apologise if I am wrong. But I just want to remind you, that are far as assessing opponents and making judgement calls regarding "liveability" is concerned..... Freddie Roach leaves you and I for dead

[BoxingGenius27]

It's pathetic. The sad part is that most of these people are more intelligent than that. There's nothing wrong with questioning and thinking for yourself.

If you notice right now the Pac followers are quiet.

You would think they're quiet because the mounted evidence against them is to much to deny any longer, right (i.e Konz new article saying Manny never agreed to the test).

You would think the Pac followers are quiet cause they wave the white flag, right??

No, they're quiet because they're thinking of some crazy @$$ excuse to come up with to defend Pac!!!!!!! This is what I'm talking about, it never ends.

[LeadUppercut]

i think it's more than that. they feel it's their civic duty to defend pacquiao because he's filipino like they are. people will do and say anything for the sake of their nationality and flag. it's a dumb concept that i never got.

If a fighter from my country publicly refused random blood tests, the WHOLE COUNTRY would roast him mercilessly, it would be the end of his career.

We keep it real here.

[BoxingGenius27]

These Pac followers remind me of Bill Murray in the movie "What about Bob"...

You think they're gone?? They're not gone!!! You can't get rid of em!

Case in point, whenever they get quiet, like now, you think "Ok.... They've finally come to their senses and seen the light"...

Only to log in a few days later and find they reinvented some kinda conspiracy theory all over again!!

[richardt]

""The lawsuit is an absolute fkn joke, no question about it, and I have already explained why.....""". If it is a joke, then it will be thrown out. If it is not and Mayweather is successfully sued, that will be the bottom line. Time will tell. GBP came out and officially appologized, take that for what it is worth.

[LeadUppercut]

""The lawsuit is an absolute fkn joke, no question about it, and I have already explained why.....""". If it is a joke, then it will be thrown out. If it is not and Mayweather is successfully sued, that will be the bottom line. Time will tell. GBP came out and officially appologized, take that for what it is worth.

Whatever, but personally, I would rather see them fight in the ring.

OK, I accepted your deal regarding Marquez, and I will keep my word.....
..... wanna do the same for me ?

" Pacquiao, you're next " ~ FMj

Rich, if you were Pacquiao's promoter and you GENUINELY wanted that fight, you would take that comment as an open-door to negotiation, correct?

If Pacquiao does not fight Mayweather after Marquez, and the reason why not has anything to do with OSDT's or the lawsuit, will you admit that I am correct.....
" they will milk the Manny-cow until it is dry, and then feed it to Mayweather "
..... and will you admit that the only reason why that fight hasn't happened yet is because Arum (Manny) doesnt want to go anywhere near Mayweather until Pac's last fight (the cow has been milked dry) ?

Agreed ?

I just wish that you would help remove the excuses, not compound them.

The lawsuit cannot be justified, because Pac knew that refusing OSDT's would raise su****ions, his coach publicly admitted it.

[deejd]

i think it's more than that. they feel it's their civic duty to defend pacquiao because he's filipino like they are. people will do and say anything for the sake of their nationality and flag. it's a dumb concept that i never got.

At the same time, and I've stated this before... I actually respect the poster that says outright that they believe he's juicing and just doesn't care and wants the fight to happen.

It's the stans that defend his lies and still play off the numerous excuses and cutoff dates which is what I find pathetic as opposed to the former.

[LeadUppercut]

At the same time, and I've stated this before... I actually respect the poster that says outright that they believe he's juicing and just doesn't care and wants the fight to happen.

It's the stans that defend his lies and still play off the numerous excuses and cutoff dates which is what I find pathetic as opposed to the former.

Neither are acceptable.