Comments Thread For: Roach: If Mayweather Beats Ortiz, Pacquiao is Waiting

[Pullcounter]

Just take the test

tell wifebeater to call dubeouf

[richardt]

BoxingGenius? I guess you like a name that represents the opposite of what you are. No problem. FYI - Pac said he would take the test but fighters have to re-negotiate, a contract has to be signed, and a timeframe in place before testing begins, duh.

[LeadUppercut]

Bottom line, Floyd insisted on the cutoff with Pac and not Mosley. Floyd would NOT have agreed to random with Shane if that meant testing COULD end outside of 14 days unless he was NOT that serious about the cutoff and used it as a roadblock with Pac or in an ego battle for supremacy.

Hold on man, there is no such thing as a cutoff date for OSDT's.

Olympic Style testing, is right up to the event.

A " cutoff " does not exist, Manny made it up, that is a Manny'ism.


Mosley undertook FULL OSDT's, Pac would not even consider OSDT's without a cutoff date.

You flying with the 18 day thing is pointless man, Mosley COULD have been tested, so the test was random, so Shane WAS clean, end of story.

Personally, I have no problem with giving Manny a small cutoff. Even if his position that taking blood weakening him is silly and unfounded, give the guy a break and allow him 1-2 days grace. But 14 days is ridiculous, and 24-days is nothing but a sanctioned doping window.

[richardt]

I'll make it simple. IF as an example Pac had agreed to an 18 day cutoff, Mayweather would have had a fit, yet he accepted random with Mosley, KNOWING that the tests might not go into the final 18 days! TWO different stances. Then either Floyd did not want the Pac fight or it was purely an ego war.

[richardt]

People have a million opinions but it could have all been about ego with Floyd insisting on something, Pac says no you don't make the rules, they hit a standoff and that is it. It could have been nothing more than an ego war on BOTH sides - both wanting the fight but going off on a tangant, an irriversible stalemate.

[richardt]

Coming from a Pac fan, from what I am hearing from Mayweather, it does sound like he wants the Pac fight. I'll give him credit for that and for fighting Ortiz which I do think is a risk with May at 34 years of age. Maybe Pac will drop the suit if May agrees to drop the tests...PERFECT compromise.

[Ray*]

If Mayweather struggles against Ortiz the southpaw and look his age then I expect Team Pacquiao to sign the Mayweather fight with Olympic style random testing, Unless Mayweather shows more weakness then this fight ain't happening.

[richardt]

Ray - this has nothing to do with how either Pac or Mayweather looks in their upcoming fights. Proof is the fight was almost signed before but went off kilter. The fight has to do with testing and legal matters, nothing more.

[BoxingGenius27]

What do Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, and Shane Mosely have in common?

You guessed it. They all passed their drug test while on steroids!

[SdBoxingFan83]

I can see that you're a Floyd fan...

As per your statement (highlighted) that's also applicable to Floyd himself only a COWARD ask for conditions before getting to the ring with somebody.

Your an Idiot read my posts after that and tell me where i say im not a Mayweather fan , The Guy can box and has the best skills in the sport of boxing that is something you have to recognize whether you hate him or love him the guy has skills and anybody that truly knows about boxing can appreciate that.

Look however you want to look at this you know and all the Pacman fans that this is pretty shady the whole i dont want to take a drug test , its a even playing field from both parties. Only a coward ask for conditions? Really how is that being a coward? When he (Mayweather) has to take one as well? Hasn't History and sports shown that all the greats have cheated with performance enhancing drugs(roids) ?