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    Originally posted by ShowStopper
    Actually Peter landed about a hundred punches. The kds in round 5 def. were illegal or at least can not be called a decent punches. Round 10 kd was from a very good cross that caught wlad when he was going backwards and caught him off-balance right on the temple. It is trully hypocritical to say that Wlad was going down from every punch. The left hook that he ate in round 3 was one of Peter's finest punches and Wlad still went on to dominate that round.
    And since when Toney got 1 punch KO power. Wake up sweetie he did not have at middle, he def. does not have it here.
    And saying that Toney will outbox Wlad. Well some people sought Tito could outbox Wright. Toney got skills but does not have tools. In HW division nobody can or ever did outboxed Wlad, only outslugged or outlasted. And Toney wont be an exception.
    He is a great fighter and all but GOOD Big Mand beats a good little man. Thats why we got weight devisions.
    I don't know what fight you were watching. Every time peter landed a punch Wlad was holding or getting rocked. He sure didn't fight like a big man against Peter.

    No one is saying that Toney will knockout Wlad with one punch. I see Wlad being stopped late in the fight, because he has a stamina problem & can get hurt by many punches that he will not see, Toney will be countering Wlad all night. Also you said that Toney didn't have much power in the middleweight division. He knocked out Nunn with one punch.

    I wouldn't be surprised if a guy like Guinn knocks Wlad out. Guinn is a giant killer & can take a great punch.

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      Originally posted by Parodius
      I don't know what fight you were watching. Every time peter landed a punch Wlad was holding or getting rocked. He sure didn't fight like a big man against Peter.

      No one is saying that Toney will knockout Wlad with one punch. I see Wlad being stopped late in the fight, because he has a stamina problem & can get hurt by many punches that he will not see, Toney will be countering Wlad all night. Also you said that Toney didn't have much power in the middleweight division. He knocked out Nunn with one punch.

      I wouldn't be surprised if a guy like Guinn knocks Wlad out. Guinn is a giant killer & can take a great punch.

      exactly. Tis is boxing. as we all know, Demarcus Corley rocked Cotto like mad and Cotto outweighed Corley by 15lbs. Toney KOing Wlad is very possible if Wlad gets hit alot of times by Toney's right hand. Wlad = Non Fist Proof Chin.

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        Originally posted by Parodius
        I wouldn't be surprised if a guy like Guinn knocks Wlad out. Guinn is a giant killer & can take a great punch.
        Guinn is a giant killer?

        The only "Giant" he fought was Michael Grant. Grant was also suspect when it came to determination. Hell....even McCline beat Grant's ass...and look what Wlad did to that mongrel.

        Oh yeah......and when did he face someone who hit as hard as Wlad does? Guinn that is.



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          Hmm.....looks like half of this board never boxed.........

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            Originally posted by RunWithKnives
            Guinn is a giant killer?

            The only "Giant" he fought was Michael Grant. Grant was also suspect when it came to determination. Hell....even McCline beat Grant's ass...and look what Wlad did to that mongrel.

            Oh yeah......and when did he face someone who hit as hard as Wlad does? Guinn that is.
            Duncan Dokiwari

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              Originally posted by Parodius
              Duncan Dokiwari
              FYI.

              Dokiwari is virtually the same height as Guinn, and looks big because he is muscular. I dont see how he is a giant at only 6'4....and 6'4 stretching it. More like 6'3.

              Plus Dokiwari is complete garbage.



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                Originally posted by RunWithKnives
                FYI.

                Dokiwari is virtually the same height as Guinn, and looks big because he is muscular. I dont see how he is a giant at only 6'4....and 6'4 stretching it. More like 6'3.

                Plus Dokiwari is complete garbage.
                6' 4" 250 pounds is a giant. You just don't get it.

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                  Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
                  It's not ****** because it disagrees with me. It's ****** because it's just plain ******. That's why you see the old timers and very smart boxing historians on here like Kid Achilles and Hollister voting for a Klitschko victory.

                  You ppl do not understand boxing at all yet if you think a 5'9'' bloated super-middlweight will KO a 6'6'' 245 pound beast.
                  Lot of people also believe toney would beat Wladamir...

                  How about this...if this fight happens, we'll make a bet..

                  Since it's so ****** to say Toney will win..

                  Let's make a bet, if this fight happens of course....

                  If Wlad wins...I won't post here for 1 month
                  If Toney wins....you don't post on this website for 6 months

                  Since it's so ****** to say Toney will win, put your money where your mouth is.

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                    Originally posted by Parodius
                    Guys like Ruiz, Holyfeild & Guin, they all had good power, they have hurt many big heavyweights before. They never hurt Toney once, even if Wlad lands a perfect punch, Toney will take it. Toney has one of the best chins of all time. He's never been hurt in his life, I guess you don't know anything about Toney. I see Wlad being stopped by Toney late in the fight. Wlad chin is very questionable. Toney is not a big puncher in the HW, but if he lands like 400 clean punches on Wlad, then I see Wlad losing by TKO.

                    I completely agree with you on this Parodius. Everyone here keeps raving about Wlads win over peter yes fine good show. But stepping into the ring with James Toney is a different story. Toney can box, counter, is hard to hit and would give wlad all kinds of angles and things that would simply leae Wlad frustrated. All the while he would be landing shot after shot slowly chipping away at Wlad. Since wlad has a questionable chin and questionable stamina both of these attributes would be tested and I feel that toney would show that he is still the same ol WLad and Wlad would wind uop getting Ko'ed or running out of steam and not being able to continue.

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                      Originally posted by ImSoFlyyy
                      Stop being a Wlad nuthugger. Fo real. He aint good.
                      Im a fan not a hugger. Quit being a hater for no reason. Toneys overrated as a heavyweight.

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