Comments Thread For: Hagler Doesn't Support Mayweather's Stance on Pacquiao

[Sugar Q]

In my opinion, and that of many others Hagler is an ATG so he doesn't need anyone's either praise or criticism. He knows more about Commissions, Rules, Promoters etc than anyone that the whole Boxingscene posting illiterates can think of.

He spent his whole long caree from start to finish with Top Rank, and when Don King made "nice" to his mother, causing her to try to persuade Hagler to sign with King, he told her that "if you try to interfere with my business again I'll stop supporting you".

LOYALTY!

As a former fighter, any fighter that doesnt fully stand for OST is a total, hypocritical ass. Having fought in that ring Hagler knows the dangers. It's very clear that he is speaking as a Top Rank rep and not as a former fighter.
This is all Top Rank and that's BS. Manny's been breaking rules so long why are rules important all of a sudden? This fight is so big it has to be negotiated and each fighter has a right to ask for what they want especially test to be sure the playing field is even.

[rocco1252]

As a former fighter, any fighter that doesnt fully stand for OST is a total, hypocritical ass. Having fought in that ring Hagler knows the dangers. It's very clear that he is speaking as a Top Rank rep and not as a former fighter.
This is all Top Rank and that's BS. Manny's been breaking rules so long why are rules important all of a sudden? This fight is so big it has to be negotiated and each fighter has a right to ask for what they want especially test to be sure the playing field is even.

fighters of Haglers day never had to take these "random drug tests" they were fighters not concerned of the so called dangers you speak of. They were men of men and fought because they had to and wanted to. Now a days the danger is no different than it was back then. What you speak of is total nonsense. Gayweather has to put up or shut up. For a fighter labeling himself "Money Gayweather" he would be up for fighting for the most money of his career regardless otherwise he is just scared and making excuses.

[big_james10]

*****s to start hating on Hagler in 3.........2............1....

I am not hating on Hagler. He has a right to his opinion, just like everyone on this site.

However, what Hagler refuses to admit and the ******s on this site fail to understand is that the person who controls the money dictates the terms of the fight. That is what happened with the fight between Sugar Ray Leonard and Hagler. Leonard was the big attraction/money producer, so Leonard dictated the terms. Leonard wanted the fight cut from 15 to 12 rounds and Hagler had no choice but to comply because he would have lost out on the biggest payday of his career if he didn't.

Again, whether the ******s on this site want to admit it or not, Pacquaio has done the same thing over the last few years. He demanded Cotto fight him at a catchweight. Cotto had to comply because Pac controlled the money because he was a big star. Pac wanted Cotto to drain himself to 143. Cotto refused, but Pac still got his catchweight fight. Pac wanted the fight Margarito at a 150-pound catchweight for a 154-pound title and he got what he wanted because Pac controlled the money. Pac tried to pull the same stunt against Hatton by demanding $1 million more for the fight than Hatton. Hatton refused because Hatton was the big attraction at that time, not Pac. Bob Arum realized this and decided to give Hatton the extra $1 million to make it a 50-50 purse or the fight would have never taken place.

In a Mayweather/Pac negotiation, Mayweather is the big money draw; therefore, Mayweather will dictate the terms. Pac can refuse to agree, and lose out on a $50 plus million purse or he can agree and make more money than he has made in his last three fights. Pac thought he could dictate the terms in the first negotiation. He ended up fighting for $12 million against Clottey while Mayweather made $30 million against Mosley.

In spite of his huge, Pac is not ******. He will realize after the Marquez fight that he has no choice but to agree to OST with no cutoff date. Why? Because the man (Money Mayweather) who controls the money dictates the terms!!!!

[puga]

thats straight up truth by hagler.....if you want to fight , fight....cut the bull****.....

[jjbj2]

Hagler's stature just went from the FANTASTIC 4 of the 80s to the Hagler is an idiot and misinformed category.

*****S can't take it anymore. No one wants to be associated with Gayweather in real life. LOL

Now, Gayweather has to show up in court. Show up or admit you're wrong - Gayweather. He is rich anyway so they'll find a way for him to skip court. All us poor bastards have to show up in court unless your bank account exceeds 2 million dollars.

[rocco1252]

I am not hating on Hagler. He has a right to his opinion, just like everyone on this site.

However, what Hagler refuses to admit and the ******s on this site fail to understand is that the person who controls the money dictates the terms of the fight. That is what happened with the fight between Sugar Ray Leonard and Hagler. Leonard was the big attraction/money producer, so Leonard dictated the terms. Leonard wanted the fight cut from 15 to 12 rounds and Hagler had no choice but to comply because he would have lost out on the biggest payday of his career if he didn't.

Again, whether the ******s on this site want to admit it or not, Pacquaio has done the same thing over the last few years. He demanded Cotto fight him at a catchweight. Cotto had to comply because Pac controlled the money because he was a big star. Pac wanted Cotto to drain himself to 143. Cotto refused, but Pac still got his catchweight fight. Pac wanted the fight Margarito at a 150-pound catchweight for a 154-pound title and he got what he wanted because Pac controlled the money. Pac tried to pull the same stunt against Hatton by demanding $1 million more for the fight than Hatton. Hatton refused because Hatton was the big attraction at that time, not Pac. Bob Arum realized this and decided to give Hatton the extra $1 million to make it a 50-50 purse or the fight would have never taken place.

In a Mayweather/Pac negotiation, Mayweather is the big money draw; therefore, Mayweather will dictate the terms. Pac can refuse to agree, and lose out on a $50 plus million purse or he can agree and make more money than he has made in his last three fights. Pac thought he could dictate the terms in the first negotiation. He ended up fighting for $12 million against Clottey while Mayweather made $30 million against Mosley.

In spite of his huge, Pac is not ******. He will realize after the Marquez fight that he has no choice but to agree to OST with no cutoff date. Why? Because the man (Money Mayweather) who controls the money dictates the terms!!!!

what part of Pac agreed to the terms in the second go round do you not understand? Now that pac has agreed Gayweather has said he wants 10 million just to talk about the negotiations. Furthermore in regards to your catchweight response, how come Pac in those fights came in 3 to 5 lbs under the weight? Weight wasnt an issue for him, he fought a naturally larger man and considerably beat them all at a lower weight.

[philb]

thats straight up truth by hagler.....if you want to fight , fight....cut the bull****.....

Yea man this is gettin ridiculous i cant believe the amount of male groupies i see post on here, to even diss an atg like hagler over there cult like obsession with backing a dude that has been duckin pac all this time like he waitin for pac to break his own leg before gettin in tha ring with manny. I cant cosign this bs and i used to respect floyd too but damn, this is the most elaborate scheme ive ever seen to duck someone ive ever witnessed but i give floyd credit for creativity tho lol having half yall posters bamboozled. Funny thing is all u clowns swearing by floyd on this ost issue prob didnt have this opinion until floyd brought it up, so u aint foolin noone no matter how articulate u try to sound, be a man for once and face the facts, u just in denial is all...

[bsinoka123]

Is this the test that Floyd fans are desperately trying to defend?

[philb]

hagler makes perfect sense... back in those days, they brutalized each other. they settled it in the ring. pryor had the black bottle ;P whats the big deal??? LOL

but seriously, its all one big cluster****... USADA testing is $6,000-12,000 (for multiple tests)... so BOTH fighters can EASILY pay for it.... but pac ended up looking like the fool for refusing so bad.

Lol @ aaron pryor had that "crack" in a blk bottle like he was tyrone from chappelle show after a can of "red ballz" shazaaaam! Lol he is still a legend tho

[DominiBox]

Marvin doesn’t know **** about boxing.

hahahahahahahahaha....... ******...