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    #31
    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    No one was talking about Duran being past his prime when he lost to Hearns. He was coming off wins over Moore and giving Marvin a run for his money, more so than Hearns did. So Duran was slightly past his best when he fought Duran, so maybe he would have lasted a minute longer against Hearns if he was a year younger shall we say. But seriously are you saying Duran would ever do much better than he did. When you are on the ropes like that that stuff happens.
    People talking about something really means nothing.

    People said Lacy was the next Tyson. Turned out he was terrible, just becasue 'people' said he was something he is not makes no difference.

    The same goes for Duran. We know he was past prime at 154. We know this. There is no way to dispute that.

    I personally believe The Duran who beat Leonard Vs The Hearns who lost to Leonard would be a much more competitive fight but I still believe Hearns wins.

    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    DOnt make excuses for him. Of course he should be discredited for his loss to Hearns. Randolph Turpin has to get downgraded historically for his losses you know and dont just judge him on how well he beat SRR. Have you not heard of the saying "wait until the career is over so you can judge the whole career"
    Why should he? Should I discredit Ezzard Charles for his loss to Johnson?

    Of course not.

    Your Turpin example makes no sense thus I am ignoring it.

    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    Well considering the guy considered a murderous puncher Maidana was expected to literally murder Morales shows how badly they underestimated what a shot Morales could do. Pac is the only man to stop Morales to this day. Cant you just be fair irondamhanze and not try discredit certain fighters to suit your argument all the time.
    It doesn't matter what 'people' say. Why are you so obsessed with what 'people' say? 'People' are wrong from time to time, believe it or not.

    Pacquaio is the only ATG that version of Morales has ever fought, add the fact Pacqiauo is a pretty good agressive fighter to that. I think that's why.

    I can't see where I have discredited anyone in this thread but, ok.

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      #32
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
      People talking about something really means nothing.


      I personally believe The Duran who beat Leonard Vs The Hearns who lost to Leonard would be a much more competitive fight but I still believe Hearns wins..
      You are right. When you say Hearns would do to Pac what he did to Duran, i really dont take too much notice of it.


      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
      Why should Duran get discredited for losing to Hearns? Should I discredit Ezzard Charles for his loss to Johnson?


      Your Turpin example makes no sense thus I am ignoring it..
      He should get discredited because he lost to Hearns in a manner which Pac wouldnt. As for Turpin he must be the greatest ever fighter. He beat SRR afterall.. Well it dont quite work like that does it we know, because Randolph lost quite a few as well.



      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
      It doesn't matter what 'people' say. Why are you so obsessed with what 'people' say? 'People' are wrong from time to time, believe it or not.

      Pacquaio is the only ATG that version of Morales has ever fought, add the fact Pacqiauo is a pretty good agressive fighter to that. I think that's why.

      I can't see where I have discredited anyone in this thread but, ok.
      You are right people are wrong from time to time. When people say hearns would knock pac out in 2 rounds i think they would very likely be wrong, so i dont listen to that.
      You discredited Maidana just because he couldnt knock out Morales.

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        #33
        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
        You are right. When you say Hearns would do to Pac what he did to Duran, i really dont take too much notice of it.
        So you pick and chose what you believe so it suits you? Sounds right.

        If someone says something you agree with it's right but if someone says something you disagree with it's wrong.

        Turns out, everything hyping Pac is right to you. Figures.


        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
        He should get discredited because he lost to Hearns in a manner which Pac wouldnt.
        What?

        Giving someone credit is based off 'what would happen if they fought Pac'?



        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
        As for Turpin he must be the greatest ever fighter. He beat SRR afterall..
        Ermmmm, no....


        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
        Well it dont quite work like that does it we know, because Randolph lost quite a few as well.
        No, Turpin isn't the greatest ever because he hasn't achieved enought to suggest that.

        Nothing to do with his loss's.



        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
        You are right people are wrong from time to time. When people say hearns would knock pac out in 2 rounds i think they would very likely be wrong, so i dont listen to that.
        Ooooook..

        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
        You discredited Maidana just because he couldnt knock out Morales.
        Erm, No, I didn't actually.

        Don't reply please your response's are tremendouly draining.

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          #34
          Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
          I cant imagine Hearns knocking Pac out in 2 rounds. Duran did well to beat SRL, but that is only phenomenal if people assume Pac wouldnt beat SRL.

          We dont know. You can fantasize how SRL would beat Pac if that rocks your world. But then you have People who think Pac would beat SRL better than Duran did.
          duran was past his prime and fat.... hearns would do that to pac if it was the same circumstances, hearns would KO 100% of WW going to to 154 today if he landed a clean hook like he landed on duran
          Last edited by jtiger777; 06-17-2011, 03:15 PM.

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            #35
            ESPN just nut hugs what the rest of the media thinks is the best fighter. They were nuthugging tyson even in the mid 90's after all his embarrassing loses, *****g him ahead of guys like LL and holyfield.

            ESPN doesn't have a clue about boxing

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              #36
              lols *****s getting mad

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                #37
                BloodBoxing closed his account for some unknown reason...... Just a few hours ago...... Crazy.....

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                  #38
                  Meh. I actually think Pacquiao would own him at WW.

                  At lightweight, maybe a different story. That was Duran's prime class. I think Pacquiao would get destroyed at that class.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by jtiger777 View Post
                    duran was past his prime and fat.... hearns would do that to pac if it was the same circumstances, hearns would KO 100% of WW going to to 154 today if he landed a clean hook like he landed on duran

                    Nope. Not Mosley. He would take it and not even take a knee.

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                      #40
                      Duran took SRL's "0"....what great fighter did Manny snatch the "0" from?!?

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