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Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Victor Ortiz at Welterweight - Who wins?????

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    #21
    Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
    JWW would've been a better question.

    What isn't in question is that Marquez is a much better boxer than Ortiz and a much higher calibre opponent.
    That would be true if it was @ 135, but Ortiz is a much better opponent @ 147. Marquez will never be anywhere near the top WW division. Not to mention he's also fairly old.

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      #22
      JMM has no business at WW, I don't think he can honestly beat any top 10 WW.

      Ortiz beats him. Just too big.

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        #23
        ortiz would be way too big for jmm regardless of jmm's skills. ortiz stops him late or clear ud.

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          #24
          Vic came in at 160+ last fight, has somewhat of a killer instinct and Marquez does seem to get dropped easily at least once a match it seems but I could see Marquez counter ortiz since he likes to drop his hands when he throws. I see a tko for ortiz since it's at WW and a bloody mess of Marquez .

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            #25
            Originally posted by BoZz View Post
            JMM at WW is not good..only cherry picking duckqiao wants to see him at that weight.


            Hey dumb shiet *****...


            Didnt Mayweather fight him JMM at WW..




            God damn.. *****s are dumb..

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              #26
              at WW, it would have to be Ortiz.
              but JMM can win below that

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                #27
                Ortiz would smash JMM at 147...

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                  JMM has no business at WW, I don't think he can honestly beat any top 10 WW.

                  Ortiz beats him. Just too big.
                  There U have it.Not only Ortiz but any top 10 welterweight.End tread.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Los Blancos View Post
                    The fact people really think Ortiz would really destroy Marquez like that is depressing.
                    Ortiz wouuld crush him you ****in idiot

                    Even Clottey, Cotto, Margarito etc would beat him at 147

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                      #30
                      Jmm is best at 130 to 135. He needs to stay there. At welter he was sloooooowwww and chubby. The pac vs marquez 3 is a joke. Jmm is going to get ktfo. Ortiz and 10 other welters could beat him. 147 is too much for marquez. I miss super featherweight marquez!

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