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    Originally posted by Clint650 View Post
    like i said theres already speculation. if he never takes any tests and wins there will always be those who believe he was on something. testing is a good thing in all sports, especially boxing. are we seriously having a debate about TESTING. its a thimble of blood that doesnt even take time much time. so whateer excuses you hear about the negatives of Testing start to ask why would any professional athelete have a problem with it. this is insane.
    Yes and what's even more insane is that you are supposed to have credible journalists reporting facts and you have the Dan Rafaels' and Bert Sugar's of the world saying whos is Floyd to ask fo this special testing instead of asking I wonder why Manny would not agree to the testing. Just because they like Manny and hate Floyd. Its funny man. Could you imagine if the roles were reversed and Floyd refused testing? Oh boy the world would stop and he would be before congress now trying to explain himself. And who is Floyd to ask for testing? He is the man who will be getting in the ring and geting punched at that's who.

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      when floyd wins in september and if fight with martinez happens and he wins, i will have no desire to see him fight manny, sergio is an awesome fighter

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        Originally posted by Twako View Post
        is anyone who's not tested and wins and performs great should be a suspect? it becomes a sorry ass excuse, like berto's and pascal's.

        and pac had already agreed to full OST.
        The difference between Mayweather and Berto/Pascal is that he requested testing before negotiations even took place.

        Berto's pathetic for making those comments to berate Ortiz and Pascal is just as pathetic by screaming "take the test" during a press conference when it doesn't matter at that point.

        Pacquiao's never agreed, it's okay.

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          Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
          Maybe all of the people that you quoted prefer not to believe internet rumors?

          Maybe they think that Manny should have agreed during the official negotiation?
          you stuck in the past *****? so you're saying floyd and the *****s got butthurt like the little girls they are when manny turned down 14days the first time and will refuse any future negotiations just because?

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            Originally posted by Twako View Post
            see, pacfans are all for the betterment of the sport and know proper OST is good for the sport. the problem w/ your line of thinking though "if he never takes any tests and wins there will always be those who believe he was on something." is anyone who's not tested and wins and performs great should be a suspect? it becomes a sorry ass excuse, like berto's and pascal's.

            and pac had already agreed to full OST. why are floyd fans, AND floyd don't seem to recognize that this interview exists? their response? sign the contract... jeez... how can a contract be even created, much less signed, if one party is on vacation?
            Because it exists that was never the argument. But why then did Konc say they agreed to 7-day cutoff after this interview. Dont you think that if tey said yes we agree and then Konc saysthis that they would say something to the affect that he was wrong. but they havent and they wont cause he didnt agree.

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              Originally posted by americanbot View Post
              I'm not even sure anymore. the thing is BOXING IS SOOOOO DIRTY. i love this sport but it is dirtier then ever. EPO. HGH. aren't detected in current drug test. even womens SOFT ball have better testing vs boxing. it should be a outrage.......EPO alone will bring a fighter HIGH HIGH stamina without slowing down. & boxing REFUSES to test for it. if a AVRAGE guy took epo he would be able to kill a guy on the street......because it opens your lungs & makes you feel like you can GO On for DAYS without stopping. it makes you feel GOOOOD when fighting.
              EPO does not open up your lungs, you're misinformed.

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                Originally posted by Paposkiviri View Post
                Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesnt a person need at least a month and a half of working out to reap the benefits of roids? If thats the case, a 14 day or even a 7 day cut off is no problem......can't do much within 2 weeks....correct me if I'm wrong.
                Apparently a 14-21 day cycle is best.

                Coincidentally, the exact "cutoff" that Pac demanded during the negotiations.

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                  Originally posted by Paposkiviri View Post
                  Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesnt a person need at least a month and a half of working out to reap the benefits of roids? If thats the case, a 14 day or even a 7 day cut off is no problem......can't do much within 2 weeks....correct me if I'm wrong.
                  you're WRONG. pac wants a 14 day cut off date, he wouldn't agree to 7 days or even full random testing. lets say pac is tested & they end it at 14 days out....this destroys the randomness & it gives the fighter a chance to roid up for 3 weeks straight. things like epo only takes 2 days to enter the body 100% & RIOD up the fighter completely.

                  but lets say there were no cut off dates......the fighter wouldn't roid in the last 1 or 2 weeks because he wouldn't know if they were gonna test him within those last weeks because it's totally random.....so he would be afraid/paranoid & might feel harrassed......but a fighter with nothing to hide would care less.

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                    Originally posted by Stanly Ketchel View Post
                    Yes and what's even more insane is that you are supposed to have credible journalists reporting facts and you have the Dan Rafaels' and Bert Sugar's of the world saying whos is Floyd to ask fo this special testing instead of asking I wonder why Manny would not agree to the testing. Just because they like Manny and hate Floyd. Its funny man. Could you imagine if the roles were reversed and Floyd refused testing? Oh boy the world would stop and he would be before congress now trying to explain himself. And who is Floyd to ask for testing? He is the man who will be getting in the ring and geting punched at that's who.
                    The Raphael's and Sugar's of the world have behaved disgracefully.

                    OST's are harmless, Mayweather should not be crucified for asking.

                    It is absurd that the Sugar's of the world would question why Mayweather asked, but not question why Pac refused.

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                      Manny brings up the possibility of a fight with Floyd.. and instead of welcoming it.. you have some parrots in here bring up OST. Some of you are going to be holding onto this **** to your grave..

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