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Originally posted by AddiX View PostNot saying it cuz roach said it, they legitimately looked stiff to me. Not gone by any means. But def didn't have the foot speed and bounce I'm use to seeing from Floyd.
I'm not calling Ortiz great by any means. But you can argue that he's the biggest legit threat to Floyd RIGHT NOW, as almost any has been in his career.
I don't think hoy a or hatton were as legit threats as Ortiz is now, even gate was way overmatched.
Not that Floyd Is older, game done changed a bit. He's not prime no more.
The lefty stance (Floyd aint fought a lefty in 5 years.)
Ortiz has some good power.
Ortiz showed heart as of late.
Ortiz will bring the fight to him.
But Mayweather is a guy who is so skilled that even he lost all his athletcism over night he would still pull BHOPS and just outhink people to death.
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Originally posted by RichCCFC View PostLook, Ortiz drew with Lamont Peterson in his fight before last, last year.
Christ sake, everyone is hyped on the back of him beating Berto but Berto was a paper champ.
I also think Ortiz has hit a bit of a turning point in his career. You forget he's very young, and still gaining ring experience. He may not of been where we expected him to be, it doesn't mean he can't get there.
Ripping fighters over a few bad fights is my biggest pet peeve. Even Floyd lost to Castillo. Once he learned from his mistakes he became the best. All fighters go through it, whether it's televised or not is the difference.
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Originally posted by No Ceilings View PostOutside of Martinez or Pacquiao Ortiz is the biggest threat. I'll give you that. He has some things going his way.
The lefty stance (Floyd aint fought a lefty in 5 years.)
Ortiz has some good power.
Ortiz showed heart as of late.
Ortiz will bring the fight to him.
But Mayweather is a guy who is so skilled that even he lost all his athletcism over night he would still pull BHOPS and just outhink people to death.
Historically this is how upcoming fighters become the new stars. By beating old fighters just past there prime.
Which is why we have none. The old stars don't fight fresh bodies. So were stuck recycling old names. not saying by any means Floyd will lose. But if your Ortiz, your getting an opportune ity no young fighter in boxing has got.
Jones
Hopkins
Calzaghe
Pacman
Floyd
Cot to
Hatton
Etc etc
None of them fought young fighters towards the tail end of there careers. Therefore, no new stars.
Where is Floyd and PAC if they dint fight hoya?Last edited by AddiX; 06-07-2011, 12:02 PM.
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