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    #11
    I'm just making suggestions, for whatever good that could do :P

    boxing is often viewed chronologically in eras of reigning HW champs... the sooner we can get one of those ourselves, the sooner we'll be concluding that era and starting something that COULD be exciting and meaningful...

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      #12
      Originally posted by Pno
      no division NEEDS to be unified..

      i don't recall any other division being widely known to be "hurting"

      if HW is not unified and other divisions are also not unified, but something is working for them NOT to be knows as "hurting", then maybe something different needs to be done to shock HW back to life...
      ??
      The interest in the heavyweight division makes its weaknesses exposed - 105 thru 118, 168, and light heavy don't look to me in any better shape than the heavies...

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        #13
        Originally posted by neils7147933
        The interest in the heavyweight division makes its weaknesses exposed - 105 thru 118, 168, and light heavy don't look to me in any better shape than the heavies...

        yeah it seems like it always promised some chance of excitement... def. more world reknown up to this point.

        I do know that unless there's some real good solid competition, VK will never be given true credit for being a good champ... but that sorta goes without saying... he needs to prove more anyways for his sake..

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          #14
          Originally posted by Pno
          i'm sure it sounds like a pipe dream maybe even far fetched..

          what if there was a boycott or petition against any Don King PPV HW fights UNLESS / UNTIL there is Unification involved..

          someone's gotta put the heat on DK if we want this HW division to revive...

          That would be cool.

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            #15
            how old is don king? where not to far from not seeing his crooked moves on boxing

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              #16
              Have to admit that no matter what happens(unification or not.) or whoever becomes the unified champ, heavyweight boxing is simply boring. The best boxing fights are now happening in the featherweight, superfeatherweight, light welter and middleweight. Hate to admit it but HW(the defining division of a boxing era) right now is a garbage.

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                #17
                The early 1995 P4P list of both THE RING and its sister publication, KO, had no heavyweight in the top 9; Michael Moorer came in tenth in what appears to be an afterthought. That came after Oliver McCall (remember him, the "Atomic Bull"?) took the title in an upset vs. Lennox.

                The top ten heavyweights then were (according to The Ring and KO):
                1. Moorer 2. McCall 3. Bowe 4. Lewis 5. Herbie Hide 6. Larry Holmes 7. Frank Bruno 8. Lionel Butler 9. Larry Donald and 10, Jorge Luis Gonzalez

                The P4P list went:
                1. James Toney- SMiddle
                2. Pernell Whitaker- Welter
                3. Orlando Canizalez- Bantam
                4. Chiquita Gonzalez- Jr. Fly
                5. Michael Carbajal- Jr. Fly
                6. Frankie Randall- Jr. Welter
                7. Ricardo Lopez- Straw
                8. Gerald McClellan- Middle
                9. Miguel Angel Gonzalez- Light
                10 Michael Moorer- HEAVY

                Roy JOnes and Felix Trinidad were Honorable Mention.

                By July of 1995, Bruce Seldon was WBA's Heavyweight King and Frank Bruno his WBC equivalent by September after dethroning McCall. IBF did not have a Heavyweight champ; Francois Botha and Exel Schultz were its top two contenders (in that order).

                In its October issue, KO had Pernell (at welter) on top of its P4P list, followed by Roy ( Super Mid) on 2nd.

                The rest:
                3. Ricardo Lopez - Straw
                4. Frankie Randall
                5. Tito
                6. Oscar
                7. Gabriel Ruelas
                8. JC Superstar
                9. Yuri Arbachakov (fly)
                10. Rid**** Bowe

                Comparing that year to this as far as heavyweights go...
                Last edited by grayfist; 12-20-2004, 10:35 AM.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
                  I still don't think that if there is a unified champ it will help the division as much as they say it would.

                  I think they need to give the big names title shots and hope that they win..
                  Namely, Tyson!!!!!!
                  I agree, but I also want to see what James Toney can do when he gets back.

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                    #19
                    I don't think enough people would be convinced to boycott King. A large snctioning body or RIng ****zine needs to step up and make it pulic.

                    If king makes another garbage PPV, HBO and Showtime are the ones that need to step up and point out how useless it is. Roycott never really worked either. Though I may agree with you, it is wishfull thinking. Unfortunately, I am a sucker for any fight, PPV or not.

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