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    #11
    Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
    Again, the AA fight was fought on the outside, the ref did not tolerate any holding, immediately breaking them up. Yet Ward still dominated.
    yeah, but it was still an ugly fight. froch finessed AA much better than ward did imho.


    he did, but I'm not sure Froch has the same inside game
    froch can hold and hit too, but you don't notice it cause froch doesn't do it as much as ward does.


    He is a good fighter, but I think he gets overwhelmed by Khan.

    if there was a khan type guy at super MW... I think ward would get overwelmed too.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
      yeah, but I thought froch did it better.



      I think tim bradley is a better all around fighter... he even uses his head better than ward does
      And that tells you what?

      How much better did Andre Ward against Mikkel Kessler?

      And don't tell me anything about headbutts that's bull**** in the first 8 rounds there where no headbutts at al and Kessler just got dominated.

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        #13
        what is with all this ward loving,

        i dun see this type of loving for cobra when he ****ed king arthur.

        not fair man.

        ward is still young give the kid a chance. lets not start hyping him up too early/.

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          #14
          I would still say Marquez to be honest

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            #15
            Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
            here come the haters!

            Oh he can only win because he fights in California with Cali judges and Refs even though the last ref was from Puerto Rico! Bute is MUCH better even though he hasn't fought ANYONE and he only fights in his home town!
            both guys should be forced to fight outside their hometowns tho

            Oh ward only wins because he head butts even though he was punching kessler in the face at will and dominated his ass for 7 rounds before a head butt even happened and Abraham got schooled from round 3 to round 12 with no headbutts!
            ward didn't headbutt AA cause he was moving away most of the time. which was good... I thought he fought the fight he needed to to win, but i dunno... it wasn't as aesthetically pleasing as froch's performance against AA

            hey lets ignore greatness when we see it because we don't like him cuz he's not the most exciting guy on the planet and/or we are racist and/or we are gay!


            I like ward's personality and humility... he has superstar qualities, but his style is just ugly to watch...

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              #16
              Can't look past Mayweather. Not to downplay Ward, but I feel like Floyd can do everything he can and more.
              Last edited by S.G.; 05-16-2011, 01:08 PM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
                He is excellent on the inside and very good on the outside with good footwork and handspeed.

                I'm not saying he's the best or that he is unbeatable, but is there a more complete fighter in boxing?

                If so, who?
                Possibly he's very technical and also has a lot of floyd's mannerisms i thnk...I think froch will really test them skills and we'll c how good he really is

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by theIrish View Post
                  And that tells you what?
                  that Froch fought a better fight against AA than Ward did.

                  How much better did Andre Ward against Mikkel Kessler?
                  Ward fought Kessler in his backyard... Froch went to Kessler's backyard.

                  And don't tell me anything about headbutts that's bull**** in the first 8 rounds there where no headbutts at al and Kessler just got dominated.

                  but ward held-n-hit kessler like crazy. he landed some good punches from the outside too, but that hold n hit style is ugly and is not winning ward any fans imho.

                  if the fight was in kessler's hometown, who knows if ward would've been able to use those tactics.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by S.G. View Post
                    Can't look past Mayweather. Not to downplay Ward, but I feel like Floyd can do everything he can and more.

                    wifebeater doesn't count because he's not "in" boxing... he's on vacation ducking pac right now.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Eaner0919 View Post
                      I would still say Marquez to be honest

                      however, JMM doesn't foul as much as Ward does...

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