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Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post" changes in his stance "
1.) I don't like needles
2.) A blood test weakens me
3.) Blood testing will interrupt my training
4.) I am too proud to take the test
5.) I feel insulted
6.) Floyd is not the commission
7.) Floyd is bigger than me, so it will affect me more than him
I just about p1ssed myself when pacroid came out with that last one
How could you be so fkn gullible ?
After the Morales fight in which Manny lost, he said he felt so weak after the blood test which was done very close to the fight. It was not an excuse that Manny invented during the first Mayweather negotiation.
Manny changed his stance regarding the cut-off period for the blood test to accomodate the fans who want to see him fight Floyd. Even Floyd fans want Manny to drop it. "Take the test Manny" is their battle cry. Now that Manny did it to please all the fans from both sides, Floyd fans are now questioning Manny's intent. Floyd fans in my opinion should and must not be taken seriously. They are all fools who cannot even convince their idol Floyd to end his vacation and negotiate to make the fight.
By the way, Floyd fans always say that Manny refused blood testing because it implies guilt. To those who wants to know the truth, read it. To those who cannot handle the truth, do not read it. And of course if this article hits you in the head, you can just say that the writer doesnt know anything about boxing.
By Superstar Billy Graham
Those who are following this drama between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr, know the whole story about the unsubstantiated accusation and allegation made by GBP (Golden Boy Promotions) and the Mayweathers that Manny Pacquiao is taking performance enhancement drugs.
We also know the lawsuit filed by Manny Pacquiao suing GBP, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Roger Mayweather, and Floyd Mayweather Sr of slander and defamation of character, accusing Manny Pacquiao of taking PEDS/Steroids without a single shred of proof. The courthouse document was filed by Manny Pacquiao’s lawyer Daniel Petrocelli, for those who are not familiar with Daniel Petrocelli, he was the lawyer who won the civil case against OJ Simpson.
This is the court documents filed by Daniel Petrocelli and the law firm.
Those who say Floyd Mayweather Jr was misquoted, or has never said out blatantly that Manny Pacquiao is taking PEDS and Steroids, are in complete denial because there is so much evidence. From numerous videos and articles quoting the Mayweathers slandering Manny Pacquiao, it will totally suffocate the Mayweather’s defense. When it will finally go to court, Floyd fans will finally hear the truth about their fallen hero. A great boxer who has issues in using common sense.
Manny Pacquiao fans, and The Superstar have been steadfast from the beginning. The Mayweathers have no right to discredit and slander Manny Pacquiao of taking PEDS and Steroids without one shred of proof. Floyd fans will contend to say “simply take the test to prove you’re clean,” or quoting one of Floyd Jr’s many lack of real thought comments, “why would anyone turn down a $25 million drug test unless they are hiding something”. But lets dissect that particular quote “why would anyone turn down a $25 million drug test”. First off, nobody is turning down a $25 million drug test, this is a fight not a drug test. The Superstar has never heard of a $25 million drug test, has anyone? Lets deal with the truth, it is what it is, a $25 million mega fight.
The blood test Floyd is demanding is not required by the NSAC, it is clear Floyd Jr is using this to imply Manny Pacquiao is a cheater. But according to many Floyd Jr fans, why would Manny turn down blood testing unless he is hiding something. Now, that itself is very inaccurate. Manny NEVER turned down blood testing even though he is not required to or comply according to the NSAC policy. Manny originally agreed to do blood testing a week before the announcement of their fight, and then 24 days changed to 14 days before the fight and finally another right after the fight. Also included in the drug testing were unlimited urine testing at will and all the way up to the fight. Does that sound like someone who is trying to hide something? At that time it was an unprecedented drug test no other fighter has ever taken. And then on the second attempt to make this mega fight, Manny Pacquiao agreed to all of Floyd’s drug testing demands and the result was Floyd Mayweather Jr announcing on early June of 2010, he will leave the sport of boxing in order to focus on his gym and his foundation.
We all know the real truth, this is another tactic Floyd Jr will use to duck Manny Pacquiao. The same tactic he used to duck Antonio Margarito, Miguel Cotto and a rematch against Oscar De La Hoya.
Floyd fans insist a simple blood test will erase what Floyd Mayweather, and his henchmen have said about Manny, but they have already irreparably damaged Manny’s reputation. Pacquiao fans and The Superstar have insisted accusing another athlete of cheating is absolutely the worse thing they can do. It will damage their reputation that may follow them even after their career from the sport is over. Taking a simple test is not that simple, it doesn’t cure anything. It will not reverse the damage it has done. In fact the damage has been done.
Floyd fans need to put themselves in Manny Pacquiao’s shoes. Let’s take as an example, a manager of a company has an axe to grind to a fellow peer and accuses that person of stealing without one shred of proof. This manager announced that this person is stealing from the company and all that person has to do to prove their innocence is too take a polygraph test or more commonly known as a “lie detector test”. Would that person or anyone in their right mind comply to that demand? More important, would you comply to that demand? After all it is a simple lie detector test. The answer is “NO”!! There is no way anyone or anybody will comply to that. In fact what the accused will do is one thing, seek their attorney and then go from there. Nobody will just “simply comply to the test” or bend in anyone’s will. NOBODY. They will do what Manny Pacquiao and many others who feel their rights have been violated and trampled, they will seek their attorney. For those who say “I’ll take the test”, are lying. The first thing that will come to their mind is they have been unjustly accused and he or she will seek advice from their attorney on what actions to take.
Manny Pacquiao simply complying to Floyd Mayweather’s demands after he and his family blatantly slandered him of taking PEDS and Steroids, is not something Manny or anyone would expect or comply to do. There is a big lesson here to learn, and Floyd fans really should pay close attention. Nobody has the right to accuse anyone of any wrong doings unless they have solid evidence. Or else face the consequences. To do so is reckless and irresponsible behavior. Something Floyd Jr is good at. Now it seems Floyd Jr is in trouble again with the IRS, owing over $3 million. Instead of focusing on his foundation or his gym like he said in the video above, he is out ******** big money and posting his winning tickets on his Twitter and Facebook pages. Something the IRS has been monitoring closely thanks to Floyd’s addiction for attention. Well, that’s another story.
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Originally posted by Alibata View PostYou ignorant *******.. Looks like you just joined this site so it be fair for me to assume that you are the one who is new to the sport..... Pac fans new to boxing... gtfoLast edited by Saddlebred; 05-03-2011, 07:45 PM.
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Originally posted by Cgarcia View PostI think you're a scum and a swindler in real life.
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Originally posted by bsinoka123 View PostManny never said he is afraid of needles. Some people mentioned it as a joke and all the anti-Pacquiao people jumped into it to make Manny look bad.
After the Morales fight in which Manny lost, he said he felt so weak after the blood test which was done very close to the fight. It was not an excuse that Manny invented during the first Mayweather negotiation.
Manny changed his stance regarding the cut-off period for the blood test to accomodate the fans who want to see him fight Floyd. Even Floyd fans want Manny to drop it. "Take the test Manny" is their battle cry. Now that Manny did it to please all the fans from both sides, Floyd fans are now questioning Manny's intent. Floyd fans in my opinion should and must not be taken seriously. They are all fools who cannot even convince their idol Floyd to end his vacation and negotiate to make the fight.
By the way, Floyd fans always say that Manny refused blood testing because it implies guilt. To those who wants to know the truth, read it. To those who cannot handle the truth, do not read it. And of course if this article hits you in the head, you can just say that the writer doesnt know anything about boxing.
By Superstar Billy Graham
Those who are following this drama between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr, know the whole story about the unsubstantiated accusation and allegation made by GBP (Golden Boy Promotions) and the Mayweathers that Manny Pacquiao is taking performance enhancement drugs.
We also know the lawsuit filed by Manny Pacquiao suing GBP, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Roger Mayweather, and Floyd Mayweather Sr of slander and defamation of character, accusing Manny Pacquiao of taking PEDS/Steroids without a single shred of proof. The courthouse document was filed by Manny Pacquiao’s lawyer Daniel Petrocelli, for those who are not familiar with Daniel Petrocelli, he was the lawyer who won the civil case against OJ Simpson.
This is the court documents filed by Daniel Petrocelli and the law firm.
Those who say Floyd Mayweather Jr was misquoted, or has never said out blatantly that Manny Pacquiao is taking PEDS and Steroids, are in complete denial because there is so much evidence. From numerous videos and articles quoting the Mayweathers slandering Manny Pacquiao, it will totally suffocate the Mayweather’s defense. When it will finally go to court, Floyd fans will finally hear the truth about their fallen hero. A great boxer who has issues in using common sense.
Manny Pacquiao fans, and The Superstar have been steadfast from the beginning. The Mayweathers have no right to discredit and slander Manny Pacquiao of taking PEDS and Steroids without one shred of proof. Floyd fans will contend to say “simply take the test to prove you’re clean,” or quoting one of Floyd Jr’s many lack of real thought comments, “why would anyone turn down a $25 million drug test unless they are hiding something”. But lets dissect that particular quote “why would anyone turn down a $25 million drug test”. First off, nobody is turning down a $25 million drug test, this is a fight not a drug test. The Superstar has never heard of a $25 million drug test, has anyone? Lets deal with the truth, it is what it is, a $25 million mega fight.
The blood test Floyd is demanding is not required by the NSAC, it is clear Floyd Jr is using this to imply Manny Pacquiao is a cheater. But according to many Floyd Jr fans, why would Manny turn down blood testing unless he is hiding something. Now, that itself is very inaccurate. Manny NEVER turned down blood testing even though he is not required to or comply according to the NSAC policy. Manny originally agreed to do blood testing a week before the announcement of their fight, and then 24 days changed to 14 days before the fight and finally another right after the fight. Also included in the drug testing were unlimited urine testing at will and all the way up to the fight. Does that sound like someone who is trying to hide something? At that time it was an unprecedented drug test no other fighter has ever taken. And then on the second attempt to make this mega fight, Manny Pacquiao agreed to all of Floyd’s drug testing demands and the result was Floyd Mayweather Jr announcing on early June of 2010, he will leave the sport of boxing in order to focus on his gym and his foundation.
We all know the real truth, this is another tactic Floyd Jr will use to duck Manny Pacquiao. The same tactic he used to duck Antonio Margarito, Miguel Cotto and a rematch against Oscar De La Hoya.
Floyd fans insist a simple blood test will erase what Floyd Mayweather, and his henchmen have said about Manny, but they have already irreparably damaged Manny’s reputation. Pacquiao fans and The Superstar have insisted accusing another athlete of cheating is absolutely the worse thing they can do. It will damage their reputation that may follow them even after their career from the sport is over. Taking a simple test is not that simple, it doesn’t cure anything. It will not reverse the damage it has done. In fact the damage has been done.
Floyd fans need to put themselves in Manny Pacquiao’s shoes. Let’s take as an example, a manager of a company has an axe to grind to a fellow peer and accuses that person of stealing without one shred of proof. This manager announced that this person is stealing from the company and all that person has to do to prove their innocence is too take a polygraph test or more commonly known as a “lie detector test”. Would that person or anyone in their right mind comply to that demand? More important, would you comply to that demand? After all it is a simple lie detector test. The answer is “NO”!! There is no way anyone or anybody will comply to that. In fact what the accused will do is one thing, seek their attorney and then go from there. Nobody will just “simply comply to the test” or bend in anyone’s will. NOBODY. They will do what Manny Pacquiao and many others who feel their rights have been violated and trampled, they will seek their attorney. For those who say “I’ll take the test”, are lying. The first thing that will come to their mind is they have been unjustly accused and he or she will seek advice from their attorney on what actions to take.
Manny Pacquiao simply complying to Floyd Mayweather’s demands after he and his family blatantly slandered him of taking PEDS and Steroids, is not something Manny or anyone would expect or comply to do. There is a big lesson here to learn, and Floyd fans really should pay close attention. Nobody has the right to accuse anyone of any wrong doings unless they have solid evidence. Or else face the consequences. To do so is reckless and irresponsible behavior. Something Floyd Jr is good at. Now it seems Floyd Jr is in trouble again with the IRS, owing over $3 million. Instead of focusing on his foundation or his gym like he said in the video above, he is out ******** big money and posting his winning tickets on his Twitter and Facebook pages. Something the IRS has been monitoring closely thanks to Floyd’s addiction for attention. Well, that’s another story.
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Originally posted by indystress View Posttoney is a black fighter from ****** america where ilegal drugs are like candies...and you compare his lifestyle with pac? so ignorant
how many filipino boxers have been busted for ilegal drugs vs blacks/mexicans/etc...?
when it comes to being clean, filipino fighers are probably the cleanest/drug free boxers there are in boxing
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Originally posted by mrjoeblive View Postmanny said he lost the first fight with morrales because the gloves were like pillows. the blood issue came up later. he said he won the 2nd fighjt because he was allowed to were punchers gloves. and man was that a long opinion.
Can't wait to hear how Pac supporters explain this one.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostTrue indeed. Pacquiao had mad excuses for the Erik Morales loss.
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