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    #31
    Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
    Andre Berto is bad for boxing and supporting him means us fans will only be subject to having to see more of him. He has never fought anybody yet he is talked about as a legit contender.

    Andre Berto is not the real deal and without question would have been knocked out by Shane Mosley. Haiti was convenient for him, and don't use the excuse that Mosley losing to Mayweather is why he didn't fight Mosley.... What made Freddy Hernandez such a draw?

    Save the bull guys, Berto wants nothing to do with a guy like Mosley.

    Berto is soon to be exposed once he steps up. Mosley, May, Pac all make light work of him.

    There is a difference between the real deal and a fake.... Berto is a fake.
    Oh stop with all this hate. Berto is a very good fighter who has been overpaid by HBO, he's trying to get huge money to fight top guys when he's the one stepping up to bigger comp. He (or his handlers) don't realize they need to take a temporary pay cut to get long term payoff. He may be slightly boneheaded (or more likely his managment team), but I think it's evident that he's willing to fight the top guys.
    if you're accusing him of wanting nothing to do with Mosley what is you're rational behind that? Do you think he created the earthquake himself just to have an excuse? round 2 of negotiations he simply got greedy, it happens. he thinks he's worth more money than he really is.
    Last edited by Visceral; 04-04-2011, 11:30 PM.

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      #32
      50/50 split is fair, Mosley was coming off a loss, Berto was coming off his 4th defense against Quintana, Now if you look at it differently, why wouldn't mosley fight Berto at 50/50 more risk than reward, he walks away to go fight Mora, how did that work out? well **** pretty good cause he got a draw and still got a pay day against Manny.

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        #33
        Berto fans? I've never heard of that before.

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          #34
          Originally posted by J Dubb II 330 View Post
          50/50 split is fair, Mosley was coming off a loss, Berto was coming off his 4th defense against Quintana, Now if you look at it differently, why wouldn't mosley fight Berto at 50/50 more risk than reward, he walks away to go fight Mora, how did that work out? well **** pretty good cause he got a draw and still got a pay day against Manny.
          Ummm because he brings 85% of the money into the fight

          That might have something to do with it

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            #35
            Originally posted by daggum View Post
            if you were impressed by berto's level of competition stay tuned for the sergio martinez parade of bums! coming soon yay!
            lets see Martinez is signed to HBO, they rejected Zbik, because they can, He beats Dzinziruk a light middle and people cry about him not being a middle, but yet Martinez wanted Zbik but that didn't matter to hbo. Dibella says he wants to put Manfredo in there next after Martinez says he wants the big names, see a pattern, Dibella is choosing Martinez next opponent not Martinez, and Martinez will.fight him because he is contracted by Dibella and HBO, boxers like Manny and Floyd pick who they want to fight because they control the potential revenue to be generated. Manny vs Marquez = sub 1 mill buys, Manny vs Berto = sub 800,000 buys, Manny vs Mosley =1.2 mill plus buys. so the logical pick is Mosley
            Last edited by J Dubb II 330; 04-04-2011, 11:39 PM.

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              #36
              when boxing goes back to being more about the boxing than the money you whiners will start seeing more of the fights you want to see.
              he's a young ****y kid, I would had asked for 50/50 myself as most of.you would

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                #37
                Originally posted by Visceral View Post
                Oh stop with all this hate. Berto is a very good fighter who has been overpaid by HBO, he's trying to get huge money to fight top guys when he's the one stepping up to bigger comp. He (or his handlers) don't realize they need to take a temporary pay cut to get long term payoff. He may be slightly boneheaded (or more likely his managment team), but I think it's evident that he's willing to fight the top guys.
                if you're accusing him of wanting nothing to do with Mosley what is you're rational behind that? Do you think he created the earthquake himself just to have an excuse? round 2 of negotiations he simply got greedy, it happens. he thinks he's worth more money than he really is.
                More excuse,HBO is paying him to take good fights and as a young fighter he should wanna prove himself..No excuse him(Berto knows the fight game)and his handlers are at fault(not the handlers alone)..

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by J Dubb II 330 View Post
                  lets see Martinez I signed to HBO, they rejected Zbik, because they can, He beats Dzinziruk a light middle and people cry anoutvthe him not being a middle, but yet Martinez wanted Zbik but that didn't matter to hbo. Dibella says he wants to put Manfredo in there next after Martinez says he wants the big names, see a pattern, Dibella is choosing Martinez next opponent not Martinez, and Martinez will.fight him because he is contracted by Dibella and HBO, boxers like Manny and Floyd pick who they want to fight because they control the potential revenue to be generated. Manny vs Marquez = sub 1 mill buys, Manny vs Berto = sub 800,000 buys, Manny vs Mosley =1.2 mill plus buys. so the logical pick is Mosley
                  hbo rejected zbik because he sucks. hbo only approved dzinziruk because they promised gary shaw they would give dzinziruk a fight in exchange for making the bradley-alexander fight. it's called cronyism. they didn't approve dzinziruk because he's a great fighter or a huge draw.

                  now that martinez is top dog he's gonna be matched with no hopers. at least he earned his way to the top unlike berto but still once they are at the top it's cherry pick heaven.
                  Last edited by daggum; 04-04-2011, 11:46 PM.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by J Dubb II 330 View Post
                    50/50 split is fair, Mosley was coming off a loss, Berto was coming off his 4th defense against Quintana, Now if you look at it differently, why wouldn't mosley fight Berto at 50/50 more risk than reward, he walks away to go fight Mora, how did that work out? well **** pretty good cause he got a draw and still got a pay day against Manny.
                    The reason Mosley did not take the 50?50 deal was because Berto can't draw a camel to water he is not an A-side to anything at this point..We been over this man..

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by J Dubb II 330 View Post
                      when boxing goes back to being more about the boxing than the money you whiners will start seeing more of the fights you want to see.
                      he's a young ****y kid, I would had asked for 50/50 myself as most of.you would
                      Boxing is already becoming more about boxing,the purse will always be important..But boxing is also about pride and proving ya self Berto has not even begun imo..For a young fighter I'll give him some credit but he should have step up by now,the fact that he is fighting Ortiz right now speaks in volume about Berto's true intentions..

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