First, let me safe it was a sloppy fight. I definitely think Manny had stamina issues and you could really tell by the 8th round. Next, a fighter does not have to dominate a round with power punches to win it. I thought Manny gave away plenty of rounds with his lack of activity. A round is 3 minutes and Manny clearly was not fighting for 3 minutes of every round which should have affected the scores and did. I scored it a draw, but was not surprised at the outcome considering Manny's last fight against Marquez in Vegas. Judges are aware of Manny's volume punching style and are aware of the crowd roaring anytime Manny throws a flurry of punches. Whether they land or not. Lastly, the judge that scored the fight for Manny still thought Bradley won 5 rounds. Most people on this board do not think Tim won 5 rounds. My question is how to most people score fights? Do you take past rounds in consideration when scoring the next round? I hope not, because each round should be scored as a different fight. Fact is, the fight was close because Manny did not fight for 3 minutes of every round.
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Originally posted by VERSION1 (V1) View Postso if fighter a lands more punchs in 8 round then fighter b but fighter b knoks fighter a down 4 times in those 8 rounds if we use compubox fighter 8 wins the fight.............. yeah thats a great idea
or i could just hit you ten time and as lon as you dont hit me more then that i would win the round
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Originally posted by MayMosPeaHop View PostFirst, let me safe it was a sloppy fight. I definitely think Manny had stamina issues and you could really tell by the 8th round. Next, a fighter does not have to dominate a round with power punches to win it. I thought Manny gave away plenty of rounds with his lack of activity. A round is 3 minutes and Manny clearly was not fighting for 3 minutes of every round which should have affected the scores and did. I scored it a draw, but was not surprised at the outcome considering Manny's last fight against Marquez in Vegas. Judges are aware of Manny's volume punching style and are aware of the crowd roaring anytime Manny throws a flurry of punches. Whether they land or not. Lastly, the judge that scored the fight for Manny still thought Bradley won 5 rounds. Most people on this board do not think Tim won 5 rounds. My question is how to most people score fights? Do you take past rounds in consideration when scoring the next round? I hope not, because each round should be scored as a different fight. Fact is, the fight was close because Manny did not fight for 3 minutes of every round.
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Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View PostLOL ok,who has the belt and who has an L??I remember Pac fans asking that same question when you brought up JMM..So now I'll ask it to you??Originally posted by J Dubb II 330 View PostAnd Pac fans should give it a rest with all the crying.
Because at the end of the day Bradley is the WBO champ
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Originally posted by Brother Jay View PostPac won't be top 50. Historians are not pactards.
When they weigh what Pacquiao has done, the only value that will get him through the door will be his fights against Barrera and Morales.
JMM II - indecisive
DLH - coming off loss & weight drained
Hatton - coming off 1st loss & damaged after KO to Floyd
Cotto - coming off destruction by Margarito & drained
Clottey - coming off loss to Cotto and never been world class
Margarito - coming off KO loss and still banned at time of fight & drained
Mosley - coming off loss & looked terrible in next 2 fights
JMM - clear win for JMM despite Pacquiao having him come up to a weight he claims he could not make till this day.
Take those fights away(and a historian could not factor in those matches as legacy wins because of the conditions) and Pacquiao has to rely on the rest of his resume.
He may not break top 100.
Manny was already demoted before he fought Bradley. Manny isn't #2 any longer.
He was never #1 because he never beat anyone to become #1. Manny was never the #1 WW. Manny was never the #1 jrMW. As of November Manny wasn't the #1 anything.
We all knew this was coming. All of the talk about "has Manny aged?" was just softening the blow. The excuses were already made. The scenario was already painted out.
Before Manny and Tim stepped in the ring, the whispers had already begun .. the seeds had already been planted .. the doubts were already apparent.
This performance by Manny was not worse than his performance against JMM or Clottey. Its just that his fans are not impartial and only see Manny doing well.
Those days are over. They hype is on a billboard for everyone to see.
Regardless of how this may have been orchestrated so that a rematch resulted, this match was important as it demonstrated what some of us have been saying for years: Manny only has his jab, jab straight left hand and once he's fighting someone who can actually box AND MOVE, he's a dud.
Pacfans are right. There is no argument anymore.
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Originally posted by Primera View PostI remember Kellerman announced that his close associate also had it to bradley
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