Who Won Pac-Bradley? Post fight discussion STOP MAKING NEW THREADS ABOUT THIS FIGHT.

[FUC_U_PAYME]

floyd does'nt have the #1 spot...and he should'nt for obvious reasons..he struggled vs cotto....

but pac really have to win by a clear fashion to reclamin his throne...altho he was bumped down unfairly IMO...

explain........

[puga]

Pacquaio never earned the number one spot by beating Mayweather or Mayweather losing to someone else.

Pacquaio got the spot only because Mayweather retired for a short while, and he got it by default. No one disputes Mayweather is the most skilled fighter in the sport either

If you wanna get technical about it, Manny couldve lost to the same Marquez that Mayweather thoroughly dominated, two pounds was not gonna change the outcome of that fight let it go.

Mayweather clearly beat Cotto who most people acknowledge won no more than 4 rounds at best and most people think Pacquiao lost his last fight with Marquez clearly so therefore Manny is not the number one fighter pound for pound

**** like that happen all the time...floyd automacticly got the #1 spot due to hopkinks losing so it was given to him by default and not becuase he earned it...same damn thing...

[puga]

explain........

simple...he was bumped down right after floyd struggled with cotto....

[therealpugilist]

floyd does'nt have the #1 spot...and he should'nt for obvious reasons..he struggled vs cotto....

but pac really have to win by a clear fashion to reclamin his throne...altho he was bumped down unfairly IMO...

He was bumped down because he hasnt looked impressive in a long time, he never truely earned the spot by beating Mayweather or Mayweather losing in the ring..."Mayweather has been in the p4p rankings since 1998 and you believe floyd isnt number one for obvious reasons?"

Mayweather was champion uninterrupted for 5 years before anyone even heard of Manny Pacquaio

he didnt win his last fight clearly against Marquez...if you think Mayweather struggled with Cotto, you must think Pacquaio lost to Marquez then?

Cotto won 4 rounds at best, everytime I scored the fight Mayweather won 9-3

[salitap4p#1]

Neither of them should have the number 1 spot unless they either fight each other, or one of them makes the leap to fight Martinez.

So Pac would have to beat Bradley convincingly and then move on to Martinez. Similarly, Floyd will have to fight Martinez.

It may sound harsh but that's their fault for dragging the sport into the ground and not fighting each other.

[Brother Jay]

It's funny reading this thread because *****s talk as if Floyd is some kind of tuff fighter but in reality #1 is scared of #2.

#1 = I'm a coward.

The only fear going on with either Floyd or Manny is that Manny is afraid what results random OST would reveal. That's why he's refused it for 4 years. That's why Manny constantly comes up with reasons not to fight.

Be it OST, USADA, cut off dates, cuts over his eye not healing, the split, etc.

Floyd has been consistent in his one demand:

Take the tests.

Floyd already called up Manny and offered him about 6x what he normally takes home. Manny isn't going to get that kind of payday ANYWHERE else. Manny takes home $7 million. Floyd just took home a guaranteed $35 million.

Who needs who? And who else would turn down $40 million unless they were afraid of that asss-beating?

Hell .. I'd wager that any boxer within 20lbs higher or lower would make 147 for that kind of money. Pacquiao just ain't that important.

[therealpugilist]

**** like that happen all the time...floyd automacticly got the #1 spot due to hopkinks losing so it was given to him by default and not becuase he earned it...same damn thing...

No it wasnt...Hopkins only made the p4p lists off of one win, that was beating a streaking Trinidad...Mayweather was a top ten pound for pounder since 1998 and kept on winning.After Roy Jones lost it was a toss up for most people who the best was between Hopkins and Mayweather.

Hopkins lost and with it lost his claim. Mayweather was in his prime then Hopkins was great but past prime so to me it wasnt even a discussion. A prime fighter is better than a past prime fighter.

[puga]

He was bumped down because he hasnt looked impressive in a long time, he never truely earned the spot by beating Mayweather or Mayweather losing in the ring..."Mayweather has been in the p4p rankings since 1998 and you believe floyd isnt number one for obvious reasons?"

Mayweather was champion uninterrupted for 5 years before anyone even heard of Manny Pacquaio

he didnt win his last fight clearly against Marquez...if you think Mayweather struggled with Cotto, you must think Pacquaio lost to Marquez then?

Cotto won 4 rounds at best, everytime I scored the fight Mayweather won 9-3

no, if that was the reason then pac should've been bumped down right after marquez 3 fight...floyd did'nt get bumped down when he did'nt look impressive vs hoya and balmdoir ...you said pac gothe # 1 spot by default but so did floyd...pac got it when floyd reteired and floyd got it when bhop lost....so both really did'nt become the p4p king bacuse of what they did but becuase of what the then current p4p failed to do which in bhop's case win and in floyd' case retirement...

[therealpugilist]

no, if that was the reason then pac should've been bumped down right after marquez 3 fight...floyd did'nt get bumped down when he did'nt look impressive vs hoya and balmdoir ...you said pac gothe # 1 spot by default but so did floyd...pac got it when floyd reteired and floyd got it when bhop lost....so both really did'nt become the p4p king bacuse of what they did but becuase of what the then current p4p failed to do which in bhop's case win and in floyd' case retirement...

Mayweather was in the top 10 p4p before Hopkins was and was undefeated and had more of a claim to being number one pound for pound considering he was in his prime and undefeated.Mayweather didnt look impressive to some in those fights but there is no dispute that he won those fights like their is on Manny beating Marquez, thats the huge difference. Hopkins only claim to fame was beating Trinidad and raking up IBF title defenses whereas Mayweather already beat the same amount of world title holders(9) and won titles at 3 weights up to that time in far less fights

[FUC_U_PAYME]

simple...he was bumped down right after floyd struggled with cotto....

no he was bumped down after the jmm fight