Who Won Pac-Bradley? Post fight discussion STOP MAKING NEW THREADS ABOUT THIS FIGHT.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Morales' skills is what allowed him to beat Pacquaio.

Without them he would have lost.

Um I believe that would go without saying,but that does not change the fact that the jab and his aggression got him the win...His skills help him to implement his game plan...No deference in Bradley's skills helping him with his game plan(whatever it might be)...

[Hougigo]

cotto mayweather hd was 65 so it's the same

nvm, I thought it was 75 like the Ortiz fight

[Rome-By-Ko]

He didn't really "Outclass" Witter.

I wouldn't consider the Holt fight and outclassing either, or Casaymor.

The only fight I think he outclassed his opponent was Peterson.

Even Alexander I don't think he outclassed him despite winning clearly.

Alexander won at most three rds,Holt only won rds in which he drop Bradley,Casa was certainly outclassed...Imo that is the definition of being outclassed..Alexander and Holt only won 5 rds between them,bro they were outclassed...I'll give you Witter,even tho I believe it was a clear victory the cards did not reflect that...But Bradley has outclassed every other opponent he has been in with,this is a fact based on scorecards...

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[IronDanHamza]

Alexander won at most three rds,Holt only won rds in which he drop Bradley,Casa was certainly outclassed...Imo that is the definition of being outclassed..Alexander and Holt only won 5 rds between them,bro they were outclassed...I'll give you Witter,even tho I believe it was a clear victory the cards did not reflect that...But Bradley has outclassed every other opponent he has been in with,this is a fact based on scorecards...

How can you say that's a fact based on the cards? How can something like that be based on a scorecard?

He won all of those fights clearly. Including Witter, he won that fight clearly.

But he didn't really "outclass" any of them. He didn't look good at all in the Casamayor fight, despite winning with ease. Nor the Holt fight.

He outclassed Peterson. That was a great win, his best IMO.

But he didn't really "outclass" any of these fighters.

[IronDanHamza]

Um I believe that would go without saying,but that does not change the fact that the jab and his aggression got him the win...His skills help him to implement his game plan...No deference in Bradley's skills helping him with his game plan(whatever it might be)...

I think his counter punching and skills were more important to the win than the aggression.

[Rome-By-Ko]

How can you say that's a fact based on the cards? How can something like that be based on a scorecard?

He won all of those fights clearly. Including Witter, he won that fight clearly.

But he didn't really "outclass" any of them. He didn't look good at all in the Casamayor fight, despite winning with ease. Nor the Holt fight.

He outclassed Peterson. That was a great win, his best IMO.

But he didn't really "outclass" any of these fighters.

I guess we have different opinions on what outclassing is then(which is fine)..But Fact is that between Alexander and Holt,only won 5 rds..LOL that imo is outclassed and badly...Holt knock Bradley down and yet won two rds,lol..Dude they were both outclassed..Once again many people believe a fighter has to score a KO for him to be impressive,not for me tho...I believe if you control your opponent to the point that he is ineffective,you have outclassed your opponent...I felt Ward outclassed Froch,and that fight was closer then Bradley Alexander...But when you render your opponent to being ineffective you have controlled and outclass him...

[Rome-By-Ko]

I think his counter punching and skills were more important to the win than the aggression.

JMM is a great counter puncher,but guess why he has never beaten Pac..Because he has let Pac come forward and pressure him in every single fight...JMM never was aggressive and there for has never been giving the nod...Morales also a good counter puncher,difference is he was aggressive with Pac,and did not always allow him to be coming forward on him..He actually back him up/pushed him back...

[IronDanHamza]

I guess we have different opinions on what outclassing is then(which is fine)..But Fact is that between Alexander and Holt,only won 5 rds..LOL that imo is outclassed and badly...Holt knock Bradley down and yet won two rds,lol..Dude they were both outclassed..Once again many people believe a fighter has to score a KO for him to be impressive,not for me tho...I believe if you control your opponent to the point that he is ineffective,you have outclassed your opponent...I felt Ward outclassed Froch,and that fight was closer then Bradley Alexander...But when you render your opponent to being ineffective you have controlled and outclass him...

I don't understand how you can use "They only won 5 rounds" as your reasoning as to why they were outclassed.

He won both fights clearly. He beat Witter, Alexander, Holt and Casamayor clearly but he didn't look overly great in any of them. He didn't outclass them despite winning very clearly. There's a difference.

Ward did outclass Froch. I don't think that fight was closer than Alexander-Bradley either.

[IronDanHamza]

JMM is a great counter puncher,but guess why he has never beaten Pac..Because he has let Pac come forward and pressure him in every single fight...JMM never was aggressive and there for has never been giving the nod...Morales also a good counter puncher,difference is he was aggressive with Pac,and did not always allow him to be coming forward on him..He actually back him up/pushed him back...

He has beaten Pac.

And Marquez backed him up a little in the 1st and second fights. I actually think he had better success when not backing him up at all (The 3rd fight)

Morales did great to let the combinations go after he landed a clean counterpunch on Pac. Pac just covers up after he takes a clean shot like that and Morales did a great job in doing that. But again, I think the counterpunching ability was more of the reason he won as opposed to his aggression.

I do think Bradley could have success if he lands a counter then follows up straight away then gets out. I just don't think he'll be able to do that consistently.