Who Won Pac-Bradley? Post fight discussion STOP MAKING NEW THREADS ABOUT THIS FIGHT.

[jvsnypes]

I think he's been lifting heavy and eating. He's bulked up in muscle but it doesn't look tight because he's lifting heavy weights for mass. Once he starts training hard,he will lose the weight with no problem and be ripped as usual. Plus, he will keep his power. I think he and his team has it all figured out.

[radioraheem]

Yeah... i also over looked the fact that hes fighting at 147 (just used to him fighting at jr ww)

18lbs 3 1/2 mos out is absolutely nothing.

No. It is a lot of weight to lose. It is not "nothing" at all. And in my opinion, it shows a lack of discipline that is common with many fighters today. Plus, gaining and dropping so much weight like that is NOT healthy. Why these fighters don't stick to fighting near their natural weight class is beyond me. He should be a Jr. Middleweight fighter, rather than even Welter. I wouldn't be surprised if Bradley is around 160 for the 30-day weigh in (just like Victor Ortiz).

[vacon04]

No. It is a lot of weight to lose. It is not "nothing" at all. And in my opinion, it shows a lack of discipline that is common with many fighters today. Plus, gaining and dropping so much weight like that is NOT healthy. Why these fighters don't stick to fighting near their natural weight class is beyond me. He should be a Jr. Middleweight fighter, rather than even Welter. I wouldn't be surprised if Bradley is around 160 for the 30-day weigh in (just like Victor Ortiz).

No, it's not. The accepted amount of weight you can lose per week without damaging your body is around 1 pound per week, that means that if he has to lose about 20 pounds with around 16 weeks left till the fight, he's going to be 151-152 before the fight, and dehydrating himself he's going to easily make 147.

[!! Shawn]

Then again... We don't know what he's done in between fights for all the other fights in his career... this could be something that he always does... we just never knew about it.

Id say that he is probably trying to bulk up to 147. He's not a big 140. He is very muscular, but he is not big.

[!! Shawn]

No, it's not. The accepted amount of weight you can lose per week without damaging your body is around 1 pound per week, that means that if he has to lose about 20 pounds with around 16 weeks left till the fight, he's going to be 151-152 before the fight, and dehydrating himself he's going to easily make 147.

I can tell you straight up, that number is bull****. 3-4 lb a week is easily doable in camp.

[vacon04]

I can tell you straight up, that number is bull****. 3-4 lb a week is easily doable in camp.

Yes, of course it is, but for normal people losing around 1 pounds per week is the recommended amount in order to avoid health problems.

Bradley is a professional athlete and could lose more weight without harming himself, but what's the point of losing 4 pounds per week? He's a pro boxer and most likely has a high ratio of muscle mass to fat, so if he loses the amount you just said he's going to lose muscle mass and his metabolism is going to be slower than it normally is. There's no point in losing such amounts of weight when he can easily maintain an extremely high basal metabolic rate and just adjust his calorie intake to lose around 1 pound per week.

So in other words, that number is not bull****. You can lose 10 pounds in a week if you want and you're going to feel like crap. Try losing 4 pounds per week for 1 month, that's 16 pounds and at least 3 or 4 pounds of that are going to be muscle. There's a reason to lose just 1 or 2 pounds per week, so you can actually lose a very high % of body fat while maintaining muscle mass.

[radioraheem]

No, it's not. The accepted amount of weight you can lose per week without damaging your body is around 1 pound per week, that means that if he has to lose about 20 pounds with around 16 weeks left till the fight, he's going to be 151-152 before the fight, and dehydrating himself he's going to easily make 147.

That's funny to even think that Bradley will be losing one pound per week. No way! It's just very unlikely. It's much more likely, as with many fighters, that he will only begin shedding the pounds once training camp begins.

[radioraheem]

Yes, of course it is, but for normal people losing around 1 pounds per week is the recommended amount in order to avoid health problems.

Bradley is a professional athlete and could lose more weight without harming himself, but what's the point of losing 4 pounds per week? He's a pro boxer and most likely has a high ratio of muscle mass to fat, so if he loses the amount you just said he's going to lose muscle mass and his metabolism is going to be slower than it normally is. There's no point in losing such amounts of weight when he can easily maintain an extremely high basal metabolic rate and just adjust his calorie intake to lose around 1 pound per week.

So in other words, that number is not bull****. You can lose 10 pounds in a week if you want and you're going to feel like crap. Try losing 4 pounds per week for 1 month, that's 16 pounds and at least 3 or 4 pounds of that are going to be muscle. There's a reason to lose just 1 or 2 pounds per week, so you can actually lose a very high % of body fat while maintaining muscle mass.

Sorry to break it to you -- but most fighters DO NOT do this. They typically only begin to shed those pounds at the start of training camp. Not really before. Victor Ortiz shed 13 pounds within 30 days just to make 147 for the Mayweather fight. And what Ortiz did is common. Take a look at other name fighters, from Brandon Rios to Chavez Jr., it is all the same if not worse. In their cases, it is even worse. These fighters are not so disciplined like you assume.

[vacon04]

Sorry to break it to you -- but most fighters DO NOT do this. They typically only begin to shed those pounds at the start of training camp. Not really before. Victor Ortiz shed 13 pounds within 30 days just to make 147 for the Mayweather fight. And what Ortiz did is common. Take a look at other name fighters, from Brandon Rios to Chavez Jr., it is all the same if not worse. In their cases, it is even worse. These fighters are not so disciplined like you assume.

I'm not assuming that every fighter is disiplined, many of them are awful when it comes to the weight issue and you just mentioned two of them.

Chavez Jr gets huge when he's not at training camp and has to lose a massive amount of water weight in order to get down to 160. This should affect massively a boxer's performance and yet he fights like he wasn't dehydrated on the next day, that's very su****ious.

Rios wasn't even able to get down to 135, he was completely weight drained and still was 1 1/2 pounds above the limit. What I can say about Rios is that even though he won via KO, his performance clearly showed that he was affected by dehydration. He had some clear ups and downs during the fight and it was obvious that he wasn't at 100%.

Now what I was truly stating is that if Bradley is 160-170 right now, getting down to 147 is easy if proper training is done. Several guys here think that he's going to be massive on fight night and that right now he's extremely heavy. He's not, he could easily make 147 without having to completely dehydrate his body like Jr does.

Bradley's fight against Pacquiao is certainly the biggest fight of his career, and I'm pretty sure that he's going to have a 6-8 week training camp, not a 4-6 week training camp, so even if he gets to training camp at aroud 165, he can easily lose 8-12 by just losing a little more than 1 pound per week. There's no need to lose 3-4 pounds per week because there's still a lot of time left till the fight. If he gets down to 153 then goal accomplished, since he's going to have to lose just around 3-4% of water weight to make the 147 weight limit.

BTW what Rios and Jr do is EXTREMELY UNHEALTHY!

[radioraheem]

I'm not assuming that every fighter is disiplined, many of them are awful when it comes to the weight issue and you just mentioned two of them.

Chavez Jr gets huge when he's not at training camp and has to lose a massive amount of water weight in order to get down to 160. This should affect massively a boxer's performance and yet he fights like he wasn't dehydrated on the next day, that's very su****ious.

Rios wasn't even able to get down to 135, he was completely weight drained and still was 1 1/2 pounds above the limit. What I can say about Rios is that even though he won via KO, his performance clearly showed that he was affected by dehydration. He had some clear ups and downs during the fight and it was obvious that he wasn't at 100%.

Now what I was truly stating is that if Bradley is 160-170 right now, getting down to 147 is easy if proper training is done. Several guys here think that he's going to be massive on fight night and that right now he's extremely heavy. He's not, he could easily make 147 without having to completely dehydrate his body like Jr does.

Bradley's fight against Pacquiao is certainly the biggest fight of his career, and I'm pretty sure that he's going to have a 6-8 week training camp, not a 4-6 week training camp, so even if he gets to training camp at aroud 165, he can easily lose 8-12 by just losing a little more than 1 pound per week. There's no need to lose 3-4 pounds per week because there's still a lot of time left till the fight. If he gets down to 153 then goal accomplished, since he's going to have to lose just around 3-4% of water weight to make the 147 weight limit.

BTW what Rios and Jr do is EXTREMELY UNHEALTHY!

I'm not arguing that it won't be easy for Bradley to make weight. I agree that he will make the weight. What he's doing though, these significant gains and losses, I don't think is cool. I mean, this guy used to fight even at 140. Can you imagine him being 165 and having to shed all the way to 140? And then gaining all that weight back each time shortly afterwards? *shakes head*

In any case, I think Bradley will win this fight.