Why dont ALL fighters request testing??

[AFighter4U]

Another one in Canada, a football player.

interesting....

these tests have been available since way back in 2008, yet just recently caught among their first cheats.

though it simply means it has a 1 in a hundred or so chance of catching cheats since one could safely assume they've been testing athletes all these years.

on the other hand, since they DID catch them, it means they have improved on the tests..... somewhat.

what is frustrating for me is that i did read about a better means of testing where they could actually use urine to detect HGH even better than blood tests, but i haven't read about any developments in that as of this time.

[brick wall]

if you look at the bigger picture the better question is...why don't sports commissions implement better drug testing protocols? drug testing is the responsibility of the commissions in the first place. if you put that responsibility in the shoulders of fighters nothing will happen. put down the rules for them to follow. some of them even try to break the rules so how can you expect them to self-rule with stricter drug testing?

[AFighter4U]

if you look at the bigger picture the better question is...why don't sports commissions implement better drug testing protocols? drug testing is the responsibility of the commissions in the first place. if you put that responsibility in the shoulders of fighters nothing will happen. put down the rules for them to follow. some of them even try to break the rules so how can you expect them to self-rule with stricter drug testing?

i think that they are trying. but they also have to balance out the cost/effectiveness of a test. what's the use of applying tests that end up bankrupting the entire business?

also, you have also to put into account corruption. i don't think there is an organization in the planet that doesn't have that problem.

[lefthook2daliva]

As a fighter in a all contact sport, you would think both parties would be requesting blood test. Why is it that only certain fighters request it & others get turned weak by the thought of testing??

IS a blood test that dangerous? Can one be killed by it?

I've giving blood at blood drives, drug screenings for work, and being tested for std's (which i'm clean of all things)...I've never been shy of testing, and its never hurt me physically. It actually made me feel better knowing that i was clean..

What is it that makes people not want to test?

Thank you. Same here. The only objection that I might be able to work up some sympathy for is cost. And that only at the lower levels.

Once they start gettin' on tv, they oughta' be subjected to really rigorous ped testing.

[ThePrince]

interesting....

these tests have been available since way back in 2008, yet just recently caught among their first cheats.

though it simply means it has a 1 in a hundred or so chance of catching cheats since one could safely assume they've been testing athletes all these years.

on the other hand, since they DID catch them, it means they have improved on the tests..... somewhat.

what is frustrating for me is that i did read about a better means of testing where they could actually use urine to detect HGH even better than blood tests, but i haven't read about any developments in that as of this time.

ceres nanosciences developed the urine test and its in the final stages before being available commercially to the public. I'm posting from my phone so i can't link you but they have all the info on their website.

[RL_GMA]

The people in major sports only make up a small percentage of the US population. The majority of the people lets say 97% at less give blood for their jobs. The remaining 3% who are in sports arent special....they are hidding something my friend..

You would be suprised how many great athletics bit the fruit once or twice..

Where did you come up with these numbers from?

Also, who gives blood to get a job?

[MindBat]

interesting....

these tests have been available since way back in 2008, yet just recently caught among their first cheats.

though it simply means it has a 1 in a hundred or so chance of catching cheats since one could safely assume they've been testing athletes all these years.

on the other hand, since they DID catch them, it means they have improved on the tests..... somewhat.

what is frustrating for me is that i did read about a better means of testing where they could actually use urine to detect HGH even better than blood tests, but i haven't read about any developments in that as of this time.

Victor Conte in an old interview stated that HGH was not something athletes would take often due to it's limited effects on the body. In other words it's not as popular among athletes as are andro, EPO, HCG and other stimulants.

"One, I think that increasing hematocrit levels, whether it’s by traditional blood-doping or the use of EPO, is of greater benefit to a boxer than the use of growth-hormone," he explained.

"So growth-hormone is more of an anti-catobolic agent that may help to accelerate the healing of the tissue repair process. But growth-hormone is not anabolic as an anabolic steroid.

It’s an anti-catabolic agent and I believe that you don’t get a very big **** for your buck. I’m not a huge fan of growth-hormone.

I don’t think it’s tremendously beneficial performance enhancing substance." - Victor Conte

[Rico1965]

If one of the major organizations like the WBC would mandate all fighters will undergo OST maybe just maybe the other organizations will follow their lead.

[tredh]

Recently saw or read that the NFL owners will push very hard for HGH blood testing in the CBA. I get the feeling a lot of sports unions are against strict testing because they know a lot of players are dirty. As messed up as it maybe steriods have been around and will always be around. Trying to catch steriod cheats is like cops and robbers. The cops usually don't have a clue to the new things criminals do to avoid detection until somebody snitches its the same with steriods and the methods people use to mask them and beat the tests.

[pistol whip]

I still have yet to see one post in this thread explain how in the *** all this testing would get paid for???????