Floyd didn't come out of retirement to face Manny

[Vasyl’s dad]

That will change 10 or 20 years or so once both there careers are over.

You think Today's media is gonna carry out in the years to come? If that's true, Ali would be one of the most hated men in boxing for being publicly racist and calling America's hero a white collared zero.

lol.

You're in such denial.

The media loves people who take on challenges.

What they despise, is the guy who talks a big game, but never plays it.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

lol.

You're in such denial.

The media loves people who take on challenges.

What they despise, is the guy who talks a big game, but never plays it.

[Dale Cardon]

if neither of them budged on their stance then why is it that it was floyd who found a way out of the fight? it sounds so ignorant when people say that asking for testing was floyds way to duck the fight. any objective person would say asking for testing that manny could easily have agreed to would be a **** plan to get out of the fight. i doubt anyone could foresee mannys sudden phobia to testing.

you do sound so ignorant, sir. Manny didn't develop a sudden phobia to testing. He was forced to do a drug test a day before the 1st Morales fight... and he said that cost him the fight. I believe him because he more than redeemed himself in the next 2 fights minus the drugtest.

[MindBat]

The majority of the boxing public INCLUDING many Pac fans AND including Arum AND Freddie believe Floyd beats Manny all day, every day.
How's he scared of fighting Pacquiao when the majority has him beating the current P4P king?

Think real hard on that one.

[MindBat]

you do sound so ignorant, sir. Manny didn't develop a sudden phobia to testing. He was forced to do a drug test a day before the 1st Morales fight... and he said that cost him the fight. I believe him because he more than redeemed himself in the next 2 fights minus the drugtest.

You seem to be regurgitating a non-fact.

He was forced to take a physical by the commission because Freddie lied about Manny's medical records being lost. Check the facts. They're on record.

[KRITKL]

The majority of the boxing public INCLUDING many Pac fans AND including Arum AND Freddie believe Floyd beats Manny all day, every day.
How's he scared of fighting Pacquiao when the majority has him beating the current P4P king?

Think real hard on that one.

No need to think hard.
I never said he was scared. My point was he didn't comeback to face Pac or top competition but to make money.
I can find a lot of fans, boxing insiders and journalist who believe Floyd is scared of Pac, but that doesn't make it true. SMH
By the way, I also think Floyd has a good chance at beating Manny, but I wouldn't be rooting for him.

[bayareamike]

You seem to be regurgitating a non-fact.

He was forced to take a physical by the commission because Freddie lied about Manny's medical records being lost. Check the facts. They're on record.

Why would Freddie lie about the med record being lost you ****? Why would he want his own fighter give blood before his fight? *****s these days sad.

[JoeDaWg]

Floyd came back to make money to get the IRS off his back and to have people belive that he is still the p4p best. The so called hit list never existed his actions show he just wanted to get some more fanfare and make some cash.(nothing wrong with both)
When Floyd annouced his return to boxing in 2009 many thought it was to take on current p4p king Manny Pacquiao. From what has happened after that announcement took place shows maybe that wasn't really his plan to begin with.
His first fight coming back to the sport was against Pac archrival JMM, who had given Manny problems in their previous 2 bouts. A solid win over JMM could put Floyd right in hunt for the p4p title while not being much of a threat by taking on someone much smaller then himself.
Manny at the time was set to face Hatton who was being trained by Floyd's father. If Floyd's plan was to take on Pac to begin with why would you announce your returm before this fight takes place. Unless your real target isn't Pac but Hatton.
This would make perfect sense. You beat the guy who gave Pac trouble, and then you rematch Hatton in London for big money, after he beats Pac like your father has been telling you he will. As we all know this didn't happen. Hatton got laid out in the 2nd rd. Now this is where the plan starts to back fire.
Floyd decides what the hell I'll fight Pac, if he could handle JMM with such ease and Manny had such a hard time with him, Floyd's size should prevail again over the smaller man.
Then the Cotto fight happened. Manny showed he could take the punches of a bigger man and break a bigger man down. Floyd began to think this fight wasn't going top be as easy as he thought. As the chants of "We want Floyd!" echoed through the arena, Floyd knew this would be a hard fight to duck.
Just days after the Cotto fight Floyd challenges Pac to call him out if he wants a fight. Pac calls him out. Then Floyd wants the fight in March just 4 months after the tough Cotto fight, Pac agrees. Then this is where the drama begins Floyd wants OSDT untill the day of the fight Manny wants 14 day cut off then a test right after the fight. Floyd doesn't move from his stance neither does Pac, the fight gets shelved and Floyd can move on to fight someone who is less of a threat.
Floyd goes on to fight Shane(which I give him full credit for), put some more money in his account and has been on vacation ever since. Nothing wrong with what he did I just want people to see he didn't comeback to save boxing or face the best competition, if it was about any of these he would have a fight coming up. But it never was, it was all about the money$$$.

Let the hate begin.

unfortunately I can't refute anything written above. I was so pumped when he came back, I thought it was just a matter of time. Him "announcing" his "comeback" the same day pac fought hatton was just typical mayweather to me, I took it as a shot of the deck of pacquaio, kinda like, yeah I'm back, I'm coming for u, I'ma announce my comeback the same day u fight mother ****er, watch out here I come!!!! To bad everything he's done since then has been a joke. Sadly he probably would have been better off just staying retired, I mean hell, look how far he's fallen since his "comeback". And that "hit list" BWWWWAAAAAA don't even get me started. A "hit list" with one light weight, and one dude 38 years old who hadn't fought in a year and a half. What a joke.

[sdcluser]

lol.

You're in such denial.

The media loves people who take on challenges.

What they despise, is the guy who talks a big game, but never plays it.

I agree. And pls don't compare him to Ali. Ali talks and back his **** up with activities.

[Vegan101]

The majority of the boxing public INCLUDING many Pac fans AND including Arum AND Freddie believe Floyd beats Manny all day, every day.
How's he scared of fighting Pacquiao when the majority has him beating the current P4P king?

Think real hard on that one.

link please...?