Dear Sergio, P4P means challenging fighters up the weight ladder, not downward...

[Ray*]

Dear Sergio,

So I heard you're trying to become P4P king. You just beat the junior middleweight king in Sergei Dzinziruk. Big ****in whoop!!! Your a ****in MIDDLEWEIGHT!!! You just beat a guy a whole weight class smaller than you.

If you or your handler, DiBella, wants to see your name on the P4P top spot, you better fight like it. Instead of begging for a fight with smaller guys like Mayweather and Pacquiao, you should be moving up the weight ladder, not moving down!

Why don't you go challenge one of the super six and fight someone your own size.

You've been fighting in or around 150+ all your life, why don't you take yur skills and move up the ladder like p4p fighters do?

I'll rattle off a couple of suggestions for you:
- Challenge Margarito, he beat you, why not avenge that loss?
- Lucian Bute, move up Sergio!

Stop challenging 5-6 to 5-8 midgets and fight bigger challengers and you'll definitely deserve P4P.

Yo Pappi

Please dont try my favourite fighter, You're just to good for them, so please move up again so our favourite fighters dont have to be accuse of ducking you..Thanks..

[Canelo Phresh]

how about you make a whole new thread about it just to check yourself again like last time?

a whole bunch of *******s made the same atg ranking argument. by that logic rjj and b-hop can still be p4p because what they have done and that they are still active. its wrong and real boxing fans know that only a few ******* nutjobs hate martinez and argue pacs atg status against a p4p argument. ive have owned your pathetic hater a$$ to many times to remember now.

[P4P Opinion]

Martinez is 36 years old and he needs to make as much from the sport as he can with his remaining years - that means fighting people like Mayweather and Pacquiao, both of whom have fought and won titles at 154. Martinez would be weakening himself getting back down to 154 just as much as Mayweather or Pacquiao would be weakened by rising up to 154 again.

Martinez will never get a chance at Pacquiao or Mayweather though. Pacquiao would happily fight him, but Arum is a crafty old ****er and won't let Pacquiao near any big man who isn't static. Mayweather would fight him if the money was ridiculous, but he's too busy beating up women and brown-nosing Fiddy to even think about it right now.

[Ray*]

Boxing fans are worse than baby mammas

Seriously! Its a disgrace, This guys are going on like they have to protect their boyfriends, "Oh please move up" "Oh please dont fight like favourite fighter" "Oh they are too small for him" etc

[Canelo Phresh]

Martinez started at WW is not fighting at MW. Is a 2 division title holder.

So he has moved up...So lets not act like he doesn't.

And, you don't need to move up to be known as P4P.

Pep, never moved up was a featherweight his whole career. And, you will not find a credible list that doesn't have Pep top 10 P4P ATG....

No need to move up.

Yes Martinez has a case to be P4P #1 for people to say he doesn't is ridiculous. I personally have him at #2...But, honestly he can be anywhere from 1-5 in a P4P ranking.

real straight talk as usual j-ro. your the epitome of a true boxing.

[davidoff]

Fighting and beating Mayweather at a catchweight is far more of a challenge than moving up.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

a whole bunch of *******s made the same atg ranking argument. by that logic rjj and b-hop can still be p4p because what they have done and that they are still active. its wrong and real boxing fans know that only a few ******* nutjobs hate martinez and argue pacs atg status against a p4p argument. ive have owned your pathetic hater a$$ to many times to remember now.

rjj & bhop have lost & not looked good in recent fights. Has pacquiao?


another twisted & horribly wrong logic.


owned me many times? LMFAAOOOOO.

sure *****.

[IMDAZED]

Marvin Hagler was never pound for pound.

Ricardo Lopez neither.

[jrosales13]

a whole bunch of *******s made the same atg ranking argument. by that logic rjj and b-hop can still be p4p because what they have done and that they are still active. its wrong and real boxing fans know that only a few ******* nutjobs hate martinez and argue pacs atg status against a p4p argument. ive have owned your pathetic hater a$$ to many times to remember now.

But, your argument is just as weak though...
At the end of the day is all an opinion matter. There is no, I repeat NO official P4P ranking. There is no, I repeat NO true criteria on how to rank P4P....Everybody had there own way.

The true definition of P4P on how it was created. Who is the best, if everything was equal, size, height, reach, weight and that would be P4P. That was the idea.

Some people like to use who you beat, which is fine as well. resumes and accomplishment and all of that. Is all good because at the end of the day is just a mythical opinion based ranking.

When I create, I have my own personal criteria, I look a lot at who you beat, I hold that the main factor, and I go back as far as 3 years...Nothing more than 36 months on who you beat. 36 month is still recent and yet long enough to see the level of comp being faced. And, then secondary I take into account if everything was equal in terms of size who would win.

I got Pac #1 P4P, Martinez #2, Floyd #3, JMM #4, and Donaire #5. That's my top 5.

And, yours could be completely different and it's fine as well. Because, at the end of the day this ranking is not official. It just a mythical based opinion ranking.

[Chuckguy]

Sergio, you are not the best fighter in the world. Fight Carl Froch, someone your own size and pretty handy.

same thing can be said of pac
fight someone your own size with speed and power
he has yet to do it since moving up