Can someone explain this to me...

[cixthree]

Can someone please explain to me this logic, Floyd ducked Manny by asking for them both to partake in additional testing.

I see alot of guys saying this, some of the media even says it but NEVER give any kind of details on how this could be real.
All they give is this really blank and dry "Floyd asking for additional testing is his way out"

Over pricing= Ducking most of the time

Vacating a belt to not face your mandatory= Ducking most of the time.

Theses are 2 obvious ways of ducking that I've seen in my 20 or so years of being a boxing fan.
But I'll never understand how you agree on 50/50 (Knowing Floyd is greedy, but on the money split he agreed)

Everything was going smoothly until Top Rank/Manny/Freddy backed out on the testing. It's not like Floyd sprung this at the last minute, OST was on the table from the jump.

Manny is saying yes to a 7 day cutoff now (But as we see, Arum has booked Manny to fight Free agents and top rank fighters. His next 2 maybe 3 fights are already taken)

So are all of Mannys reasons for not wanting to take the test at first legit? Is Manny over being weak from giving blood?
Does it now feel natural giving blood?
Is it not now an advantage to Floyd?

So can somebody tell me how is asking for additional testing a duck, with all that we have seen so far.
What made you come to this conclusion? Details please, no dry blank parrots please.

[Instinto]

Because Floyd ducked Cotto and Margarito previously, he already had a image of ducker.

[Pullcounter]

Over pricing= Ducking most of the time

Vacating a belt to not face your mandatory= Ducking most of the time.

Theses are 2 obvious ways of ducking that I've seen in my 20 or so years of being a boxing fan.

there's 2 more that u missed

3) retiring to duck cotto, marg, and a less shot version of mosley

4) going on extended vacation to duck pac

[Chaos]

Because he's asking for something that has never been required in the history of the sport simply to be able to get his way and mind**** Pac. Pac has never failed a test and had never been accused of cheating until Floyds family started with the accusations because they couldn't handle his success. If someone calls you a f*g and says if you're not one then take a lie detector to prove it what would you say? I personally would tell them to **** off and I'd suggest where they could stick the lie detector. It's Floyd's way of getting the upper hand because he's making Pac do something neither he nor any fighter would choose to do. Anyone who says they enjoy getting blood taken is full of **** so there's no reason to agree to it if it's not mandatory.

[Prime 407]

Can't be tested while your on permanent vacation.

[damned1974]

Because he's asking for something that has never been required in the history of the sport simply to be able to get his way and mind**** Pac. Pac has never failed a test and had never been accused of cheating until Floyds family started with the accusations because they couldn't handle his success. If someone calls you a f*g and says if you're not one then take a lie detector to prove it what would you say? I personally would tell them to **** off and I'd suggest where they could stick the lie detector. It's Floyd's way of getting the upper hand because he's making Pac do something neither he nor any fighter would choose to do. Anyone who says they enjoy getting blood taken is full of **** so there's no reason to agree to it if it's not mandatory.

First off-Floyd isn't the first in history to ask for random testing.Sauerland fighters do this and it is the norm for them.
How was Floyd really going to know if Pac would refuse testing,and since you are talking about doing what is mandatory,why did Pac ask for a 10 million dollar stipulation for coming in over weight? You do realize that Manny himself has went over the weight limit in a title fight of his don't you????

[Chaos]

First off-Floyd isn't the first in history to ask for random testing.Sauerland fighters do this and it is the norm for them.
How was Floyd really going to know if Pac would refuse testing,and since you are talking about doing what is mandatory,why did Pac ask for a 10 million dollar stipulation for coming in over weight? You do realize that Manny himself has went over the weight limit in a title fight of his don't you????

The 10 mil is because Floyd didn't even try to make weight for Marquez and preferred to buy his way out of the situation. They want to make sure he doesn't try the same thing again because Pac is already underweight and they don't want him having even more advantage. When Pac fails a Commission test, then it would make sense for Floyd to ask for extra testing, but as it stands he has never failed a test, so he shouldn't have to do anything out of the norm.

[al-Xander]

First off-Floyd isn't the first in history to ask for random testing.Sauerland fighters do this and it is the norm for them.

Okay. So we assume nobody refused it. Show just one example how the tests are conducted. Just a brief description.

[cixthree]

Because he's asking for something that has never been required in the history of the sport
This is not true dude, Oscar had Floyd take 2 extra tests before they fought.
Tyson vs Holifield, Tyson had Evander tested. And recently Manny had Margarito tested.

simply to be able to get his way and mind**** Pac. Pac has never failed a test and had never been accused of cheating until Floyds family started with the accusations because they couldn't handle his success.
Is this a fact or is this what Top Rank put out there?

If someone calls you a f*g and says if you're not one then take a lie detector to prove it what would you say?
Well since I'm not a "***" and this test would at best remove doubt, then I'd personally take it.

I personally would tell them to **** off and I'd suggest where they could stick the lie detector.
You never said why you wouldn't take the test tho..
And by you saying you wouldn't take the test, that means you don't agree with Manny accepting 7 days, you'd rather him stick to his guns and don't test at all?

It's Floyd's way of getting the upper hand because he's making Pac do something neither he nor any fighter would choose to do.
How does both fighters taking the same test benefit one over the other?
Manny has already said he's willing to do 7 day cut offs, when at first they gave a 30 day window for the "Being weak excuse, will he not be weak now?

Anyone who says they enjoy getting blood taken is full of **** so there's no reason to agree to it if it's not mandatory.

So for 40 million bucks you wouldn't take a blood test is what you're saying?
And who said anything about enjoying having your blood taken, I'm sure Floyd don't like it as much as manny, but the reasons differ on why these tests or this fight didn't happen. Not one thing you've said made any sense, but thanks for the effort...

[cixthree]

The 10 mil is because Floyd didn't even try to make weight for Marquez and preferred to buy his way out of the situation. They want to make sure he doesn't try the same thing again because Pac is already underweight and they don't want him having even more advantage. When Pac fails a Commission test, then it would make sense for Floyd to ask for extra testing, but as it stands he has never failed a test, so he shouldn't have to do anything out of the norm.

How many times has Manny come in over the weight?
How Manny times has a Freddy Roach trained fighter been popped for PEDs?

If Manny and Floyd were to fight it was gonna be at 47, so how many times has Floyd come in over 47?

As far as Manny "never failing a test", neither has Shane so something is wrong with the current testing don't you thin?
If an admitted user has never failed a drug test, the argument that Manny has never failed is a weak one at best....