Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Mosley Fight Camp 360 Announced For April

[WESS]

Well he always balloned up to 180 before Floyd and it was the same after Floyd. So Idon't get how it was worse. And, for the drugs because it was said not because he was caught. But, whatever...

Because again he didn't have the mental aspect of being embarrassed and losing to the best at that time. Hatton was done before Pac fought him. Beating feather fisted Pauli is not worth my time. As for the drugs I wouldn't put it past him as I've watched him talk about how he was in a dark place after losing etc. But what ever. I called it as the fight EXACTLY went. To the tee... research you will see.

You're all over the place, I didn't say why Cotto was shit. Because, you said it was cool. I asked the reason Pac and the rest were shit was because you picked him to win. Which by that logic since I'm sure you picked Floyd to win all of his fights then all of his are shit as well.

I said Diaz was shyt because he ducked Cambell Soup, Hoya was shyt because I know based off of Roach that Hoya was shot and hadn't made 147 in nearly a decade, Clottey was just a punching bag that didn't fight yet "fought" under the banner of Top rank (reason the fight was made), Margarito was a disgrace and Mosley is old and had to beg for years, lose, and leave GBP just to get a fight. That is why they are shyt and disappointing.

Of couse it doesn't make it OK. I even said "doesn't make it OK". And, at 140 is not fair and not better than Mosley.

Pac vs JMM AT 140 is better than Mosley who hasn't won a fight in 2 years who will be 40 years old. Styles make fights.

What do you mean who cares? I'm going by what you're saying. I'm not going by what other say. If I want to talk about what other say then I will talk to the ones who said it. Who is everyone? Am I everyone? Focus man. Don't be all over the place.

Well what I'm saying is that Pac vs JMM III AT 140 is better than Pac vs Mosley. The majority of people, fans, experts, media agree on this.

[jrosales13]

Because again he didn't have the mental aspect of being embarrassed and losing to the best at that time. Hatton was done before Pac fought him. Beating feather fisted Pauli is not worth my time. As for the drugs I wouldn't put it past him as I've watched him talk about how he was in a dark place after losing etc. But what ever. I called it as the fight EXACTLY went. To the tee... research you will see.

Well Hatton was really done he wouldn't have beat Paulie. Feather fisted or not. Juan Diaz was done after JMM and couldn't beat the same feather fisted fighter. A "done" Hatton won more against Paulie than Cotto did against the same "feather fisted" fighter.

I said Diaz was shyt because he ducked Cambell Soup, Hoya was shyt because I know based off of Roach that Hoya was shot and hadn't made 147 in nearly a decade, Clottey was just a punching bag that didn't fight yet "fought" under the banner of Top rank (reason the fight was made), Margarito was a disgrace and Mosley is old and had to beg for years, lose, and leave GBP just to get a fight. That is why they are shyt and disappointing.

Hmm...Interesting.

Pac vs JMM AT 140 is better than Mosley who hasn't won a fight in 2 years who will be 40 years old. Styles make fights.

There are weight-class for a reason. And, weight-class will neglect styles.

Well what I'm saying is that Pac vs JMM III AT 140 is better than Pac vs Mosley. The majority of people, fans, experts, media agree on this.

The majority of people, fans, experts, and media agree that the Oscar and Hatton fights were not a shit for Pac. Yet you still call it a shit fight.

Why are we picking and choosing on what they say?

Just because all them say it don't make it so correct?

[WESS]

There are weight-classes for a reason. And, you keep moving up to a weight-class that you don't belong in. Then styles don't matter. And, JMM III is a BS fight, that ship has sailed. Man you starting to act very ignorant here.

Sure now your starting to sound like a Pac doubter when everyone said he couldn't beat Margarito. Styles do make fights. Again you should know this.

Ask Arum what? You're focus about other convo's and not the one that you're having with me?

How should I know why ARUM/Pac/Roach DIDNT PICK Berto. Come on player, I'm giving you what they said. He is NOT known enough nor does he make them enough money. They said Martinez was too big. That contradicting as Hoya and Margarito where bigger. Not to mention Martinez is a career JMW (the division Pac has a belt in). Martinez deserves the shot over Berto as h wants his JMW belt back. What more do you want? lol

Again why is Martinez a better fight at 154 than Berto is at 147

Because Martinez has proven himself and wants his belt back. He already beat him as the FOTY. More of a storyline and selling point.

I believe so too, is not just you. Is either that or that BS JMM III fight you like.

Its not that I "like" it. I just think JMM deserves a fight before Clottey, Margarito and now Mosley.

Again you're talking about "people" maybe you should go discuss with those "people" and not me.

ok.

How is the Martinez match up better than Berto or a Bradley match up?

He's proven himself and like I said just beat Pac as the FOTY and Sergio wants his JMW belt that Pac is holding on to and claiming to be a 8 world titlists at 8 different weight classes.

You associated yourself with Floyd a few posts back by your responses not me.

Right, yet you keep talking about him. Why is that? Your not like PULLCOUNTER are you?

[WESS]

Well Hatton was really done he wouldn't have beat Paulie. Feather fisted or not. Juan Diaz was done after JMM and couldn't beat the same feather fisted fighter. A "done" Hatton won more against Paulie than Cotto did against the same "feather fisted" fighter.

Again, Styles make fights.

There are weight-class for a reason. And, weight-class will neglect styles.

Not for Pac.

The majority of people, fans, experts, and media agree that the Oscar and Hatton fights were not a shit for Pac. Yet you still call it a shit fight.

Pac personally. No they did great for him. Hell Hoya put him on the map. Most here never knew Pac until after the fact. Fight wise it was a disgrace on Hoya and Hatton's part. I'm not blaming Pac.

Why are we picking and choosing on what they say?

Im talking about the fight. They where not great match ups. Just wins that put him on the map. Yet both guys where done bfore hand (as I called it to the tee). [QUOTE]

Just because all them say it don't make it so correct?

This is true.

[amayseng]

ok chief......

Its called entertainment. Just watch MTV for about 20 min and you will see that Mayweather is child's play compared to that shyt.

People get so mixed up on the "selling" point of Mayweather. He laughs his way to the bank. Its all fake and a mask put on in front of a camera. Just like acting. You don't get mad at actors when they play the bad guy in a movie now do you? Besides HBO gives a rating on there shows.

But your right he acts ****** outside the ring but as THE biggest cash cow in the sport its what pays the bills.

floyd is one of the most talented fighters i have ever seen..

he is rich already, his act is meaningless

and he is an idiot...

good mtv analogy, that channel is garbage...

but floyd has an opportunity to be a good role model and not ******...

oh i know women are crazy, but he has a past history of domestic violence..

and like i said before, his act is garbage, he is already a millionaire beyond

belief, his act is because he doesnt know a good way to act, only negative

and ignorant... its sad he cant come up with anything else..

was his racist rant against pacman an act as well?????

[jrosales13]

Sure now your starting to sound like a Pac doubter when everyone said he couldn't beat Margarito. Styles do make fights. Again you should know this.

Again there are weight-class for a reason. And, JMM has lost a step. 135 is his limit. He hasn't carried the weight as good as Pac. You should know this but you don't.l

How should I know why ARUM/Pac/Roach DIDNT PICK Berto. Come on player, I'm giving you what they said. He is NOT known enough nor does he make them enough money. They said Martinez was too big. That contradicting as Hoya and Margarito where bigger. Not to mention Martinez is a career JMW (the division Pac has a belt in). Martinez deserves the shot over Berto as h wants his JMW belt back. What more do you want? lol

I don't care about what they said because I'm not talking to them. You said Martinez is a better match up. How so, when Pac is campaigning at 147 in the same weight-class as Berto. Yes Pac has a belt at 154 but he also has one at 147 just like Berto. It is a unification fight and Berto is undefeated.

I'm not asking a difficult question as to why you want Martinez over Berto? Give me your answer, not "people" answers.

Because Martinez has proven himself and wants his belt back. He already beat him as the FOTY. More of a storyline and selling point.

A great selling point is a unification fight in which BOTH fighters campaign in and against a prime undefeated fighter right?

Its not that I "like" it. I just think JMM deserves a fight before Clottey, Margarito and now Mosley.



ok.



He's proven himself and like I said just beat Pac as the FOTY and Sergio wants his JMW belt that Pac is holding on to and claiming to be a 8 world titlists at 8 different weight classes.

Martinez just beat everybody for FOTY. Is not about wanting the belt back bro. So stop using that. If that is what it is about then why he is not fighting Pirog?

Right, yet you keep talking about him. Why is that? Your not like PULLCOUNTER are you?

It was actually brought up due to you're saying 24/7 is not stale when he is involved. When actually it is...Again focus please.

[WESS]

floyd is one of the most talented fighters i have ever seen..

he is rich already, his act is meaningless

and he is an idiot...

good mtv analogy, that channel is garbage...

but floyd has an opportunity to be a good role model and not ******...

oh i know women are crazy, but he has a past history of domestic violence..

and like i said before, his act is garbage, he is already a millionaire beyond

belief, his act is because he doesnt know a good way to act, only negative

and ignorant... its sad he cant come up with anything else..

was his racist rant against pacman an act as well?????

Right but Pac is the good guy. Mayweather wanted to be the bad guy and figured he would make a lot of money by being the villain. Turns out he was right. Even more than the good guy. Imagine that.

I don't condone his actions out of the ring. At the end of the day its what pays his bills. There are a lot of other people who do worse and have more money and power than some American Boxer named Floyd. IMO its all an act. Its fake, just like a movie star in a role in a movie. Its all for entertainment.

[jrosales13]

Again, Styles make fights.

But, once you're done as a fighter styles matter man.

Not for Pac.

Even for Pac, he's no god man.

Pac personally. No they did great for him. Hell Hoya put him on the map. Most here never knew Pac until after the fact. Fight wise it was a disgrace on Hoya and Hatton's part. I'm not blaming Pac.

Im talking about the fight. They where not great match ups. Just wins that put him on the map. Yet both guys where done bfore hand (as I called it to the tee).

Well the same thing is very well likely to happen to JMM III at 140 or above. Which would make it no different. The only reason the fights were shit because he blew them out?So if it was competitive he would deserve credit? So if he blows JMM out it would equate into a shit fight.

This is true.

Then why bring them up?

[MissDeeCole]

i think this is an idea they originally had for mayweather pacquiao. just imagine how cool that would have been

[WESS]

Again there are weight-class for a reason. And, JMM has lost a step. 135 is his limit. He hasn't carried the weight as good as Pac. You should know this but you don't.l

He might have BUT he STILL deserves a shot at Pac before a loser like Clottey and Margarito did. Or Mosley now. None of them where coming off good wins. Margarito's fight in Mexico was a joke.

I don't care about what they said because I'm not talking to them. You said Martinez is a better match up. How so, when Pac is campaigning at 147 in the same weight-class as Berto. Yes Pac has a belt at 154 but he also has one at 147 just like Berto. It is a unification fight and Berto is undefeated.

As I have said many times when Pac Berto was being discussed. I think its a great match up an would love to see it. But Martinez who is a career JMW wants the belt that Pac is holding ALONG with the money. I've said that a fight with Berto who's undefeated and could unify the belts would be great but Pac fighting a LEGIT JMW who just beat him at FOTY and title Pac holds would be great. Let alone Pac fighting a southpaw in which in very interested in seeing.

I'm not asking a difficult question as to why you want Martinez over Berto? Give me your answer, not "people" answers.

As I just explained Martinez deserves the Pay day. There's more of a storyline for a selling point. Plus I personally like Martinez over Berto. I don't know what your trying to get me to say...

A great selling point is a unification fight in which BOTH fighters campaign in and against a prime undefeated fighter right?

One would like to think. Arum didn't. But that selling point is one of the MANY posts that I made when saying that Pac/ARUM better choose wisely. They didn't.

Martinez just beat everybody for FOTY. Is not about wanting the belt back bro. So stop using that. If that is what it is about then why he is not fighting Pirog?

Pirog? What money would that bring? Pac has Sergio's belt. The money he wants to make. They both fight at JMW. What more can you ask for. Yet fighting Berto AT WW to unify the titles would be great too. BUT IMO Martinez over Berto when DESERVING it. What has Berto done? What has Martinez done?

It was actually brought up due to you're saying 24/7 is not stale when he is involved. When actually it is...Again focus please.

Not enough for you to have an opinion of being a "fanboy" based off a 24/7 comment. Its whatever though.....