Admit It People, Manny Pacquiao Has Been Reduced To Fighting Mayweathers Scraps

[ny123]

Clearly CLottey is not better then BNaldomir since Baldomir beat Clottey.
So how is that clear

Watch the fight and dont rely on boxrec Clottey was winning and lost by dq very different then being beaten by the better man. matter of fact ill post it for you and you tell me who is better

[pistol whip]

Baldomir is like the same fighter as Margarito, tough guy, And Baldomir did beat Clottey, yes I know it was by DQ in a fight Clottey was winning but Baldomir forced Clottey into that so fair play.

You vastly under rate one set of opponenets and over rate the other thats is why they seem far apart. The only one that is above the rest is Cotto and I don't think he is that far ahead.

Clottey- C+ he loses all his big fights

Margarito- C+ where was he at when they fought

Cotto- B+ he was alright but a cut below the best




Baldomir-C+ journey man who was on the best run of his career, real champ

Hatton- B- undefeated and former belt holder at 147, comming up but FLoyd is a small welter and Hatton wanted the fight for Floyd's belt not his.

Judah- B- former title holder in two classes and former champ at 147, lost in a bad fight to Baldomir but looked a lot better comming into the Floyd fight.


Floyd was fighting guys on runs except for the Judah fight and Judah being Judah is inconsistent. Looks about the same to me except all those guys looked bad recently while only one of Floyd's opponents did..

Sorry but ranking Hatton and and Judah above margarito and Clottey is laughable at best.

[ny123]

The Judah that wasn't faded is better than Clottey, yes.

Yes that is exactly what we are saying.

You're entitled to your opinions but i disagree and from Clottey being in the ring with both my argument holds more weight.

[The Gambler1981]

Watch the fight and dont rely on boxrec Clottey was winning and lost by dq very different then being beaten by the better man. matter of fact ill post it for you and you tell me who is better

That just shows how bad Clottey is he let himself get pushed into a situation and got himself DQ'd.

No respect for that, he blew it and showed exactly what kind of fighter he is, one that will find away to lose big fights.

Thank you for proving the point

[Khalid X]

Pacquiao is just fighting other top WW's. Now Floyd is a top WW himself so it's only common sense that they will have some of the same opponents.....just like Trinidad and Oscar at 147, Barrerra and Morales at 126 and other top tier fighters.

[pistol whip]

Yea, Berto is a top ten welter who hasn't beat anyone either, why doesn't he get the Manny fight?

AL Haymon need I say more.

[V.WEBB]

You're entitled to your opinions but i disagree and from Clottey being in the ring with both my argument holds more weight.

How when Zab was faded when he faced him? Heck, Clottey also beat a faded Chico at 150. The point is, Clottey hasn't beat any elite fighter in the sport. Let alone 147 where is/was considered a "top" welter.

[Khalid X]

Yea, Berto is a top ten welter who hasn't beat anyone either, why doesn't he get the Manny fight?

Who said he isn't. Manny can't fight everyone and it's Berto's own fault he didn't get it this time around.

[V.WEBB]

AL Haymon need I say more.

Yea, please do.

Who said he isn't. Manny can't fight everyone and it's Berto's own fault he didn't get it this time around.

How is it Berto's own fault? Run that down for me please.

[ny123]

How when Zab was faded when he faced him? Heck, Clottey also beat a faded Chico at 150. The point is, Clottey hasn't beat any elite fighter in the sport.

How did Zab show that he was faded when he fought Clottey? His speed was there and if anything he showed more stamina and heart then usual. Zab wasnt faded for that fight he was the same guy he always has been.