Comments Thread For: Mayweather Sr: Mosley Can Box Pacquiao's Ass Off!

[ReUterZ]

shane is done he has no motivation for this fight what so ever..he knows he will get paid win or lose it don't matter.

what matters is that shane is floyds 3rd left over duckqiao is gonna be fighting

yaaayy yaayy yaaayy yayayayyayyayay aahhahahahh a ahashsahha aaahahha

Oh yah, Floyd could try 3 Pac's leftover too, let's start with Clottey, Margarito and Cotto. I dont know if his brittle hands need a truck of Xylo to nail these 3.

Hold on, Pac stopped DLH while Floyd did a wow remarkable SD LMAO. Pac stopped Hatton at 2 while Floyd .. oh I forgot which round ROFL. And Mosley, I don't know, just cross your fingers man.

And still, Pac is an active fighter and will keep on fighting. I dont know with your boss Floyd, when he will step back in the ring and which division he possibly will join. At welter - Pac is waiting his thumb-mark, and at middleweight, Maravilla is been calling out his name. Your boss is too busy planning intentionally for more legal courts trouble to seal his valid unavailability for boxing.

[Cash Cow]

Come on man, you believed Mayweather Sr when he said Pac is on steroids, now your not gonna agree with him now? I thought you Mayweather fans worship this drug dealer. Every word he says is like the bible to you guys. This is no different.

Now stop flip floping sides. Either your down with the Mayweathers or your not. If he says Mosley can box and has a chance then stick up for the old man.

This is a Timeline of TEAM PAC & TOP RANK comments directly after the Miguel Cotto fight in 2009
December 11:

Freddie Roach: I have no problem with the testing whatsoever. They can do whatever (Keyword: Whatever) kind of drug testing that they want.

December 14:

Alex Ariza: I am the one in charge, I am the one responsible for what Manny takes. He has no idea what he takes.


December 22:

Early today Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, was contacted by Top Rank President Todd duBoef, who informed Schaefer that Pacquiao would not agree to have his blood taken within 30-days of the bout based on the fighter’s superstition of testing so close to a fight.

Richard Schaefer: Todd told me that Pacquiao has difficulty with taking blood and doesn’t want to do it so close to the fight. He, Pacquiao, would only agree to have blood drawn before the kick-off press conference and after the fight.

In that same day,

Freddie Roach: A urine test is just as qualified as a blood test. [Human growth hormone] is not detected by blood or urine.”

How is HGH test done?

More than one blood sample must be taken on different days, due to rapid changing levels of growth hormone. A test measuring IGF-1 levels may be taken in conjunction, as its levels change much slower. Before blood is drawn, the administering health professional should be informed of any disorders or medication being taken which can lead to bleeding at the site of the puncture.



December 23:

Bob Arum: Manny says that taking blood from him really weakens him. And he doesn't want to do it when he's in training, but he'll do it prior to going into training, and after the fight. Every major doctor will tell you that blood testing shows absolutely nothing.

Freddie Roach: For the record, Pacquiao (Remember, he said Pacquiao) is willing to have his blood drawn before he starts training and after the fight to be tested for steroids and performance enhancing drugs. It’s not like Pacquiao is saying no to drugs.


December 24:

Arum: This kid has a phobia for getting his blood drawn.

December 25:

Manny Pacquiao plans to sue Floyd Mayweather, the American's father and Golden Boy Promotions in the next few days following a row over doping procedures, the Filipino world champion said in a statement on Friday.

NYDailyNews. Tim Smith,

This isn't some issue that just came about. It has been a part of the contract negotiations for weeks. According to a source familiar with the talks, Pacquiao's representatives asked what penalties Pacquiao would face if he tested dirty, and also if a dirty test result could be kept secret so that the integrity of the fight wouldn't be ruined in the public eye.


December 26:

Manny Pacquiao: I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the Press Release. I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room. I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight. The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight.

December 28

Manny Pacquiao: I do not have anything to prove (to them) and hopefully, they would not succeed in destroying my image and the sport of boxing in the way they want it done. They want to dictate and step on the authority of the organizations including the Nevada State Athletic Commission. I am not guilty and I don’t have to prove anything because I have passed all tests in all my previous fights. I will all just see you in court.

December 30:

Alex Ariza: He’s willing to give the blood tests – just not two or three days before, for understable reasons.


David Tyler interviews Freddie Roach.

Freddie Roach: HGH cannot be detected by blood, saliva, or urine. The doctors I've talked to said that HGH and any growth harmone cannot be detected by any test.

David Tyler: Fred, I have a graduate's degree in Biochemistry and 30 years experience in developing blood chemistry tests.....I'll leave it alone, let's move foward.

Freddie Roach: No wait, you can't tell me that there is a test that can detect HGH or growth harmones.

David Tyler: Fred, I'm not here to make you mad.

Freddie Roach: I'm not mad, I'm telling you that you are wrong if you think there is a test for HGH.

David Tyler: Ok Fred, so you are saying that HGH cannot be detected by a blood test?

Freddie Roach: Absolutely, 100%, NO! Saliva, blood, or urine.






So, I guess this was all Floyd Sr.'s fault right? I think not.

Men Lie, Women Lie, Quotations don't.

Note: Notice how Roach/ Arum are degrading blood testing in general.

[gattigal]

floyd sr vs yoel judah summer 2011 lets make it happen.

This is the fight I want to see!!

[ReUterZ]

It is Oscars fault, but that is the sacrifices fighters are willing to make just to get in the ring with him, and trust me im not a Pac hater at all, infact i feel blessed just to have him fighting in our era, but when you are Manny, and are considered PFP the best fighter in the world, which unless proven otherwise he is, your opposition shouldnt be fighters who lost their last fights. Since the Mayweather fight doesnt look like ever happening, maybe Mosley is a better option than JMM at WW or an untested Berto, but after that he has to fight an in form star in my opinion, a fighter like Manny dont come around that often and i just wanna see him against the best.

I like your stand.

DLH sacrificed to go down at welter for Pac mainly because the truth hurts if he will fight top calibers at middleweight..... DLH has the edge of speed but he dont have anymore the power to hurt and compete with a middleweight class fighter. One, he avoided Margarito's prime during that time.

See.... Pac's legacy will be sealed and proven only if the opposition is Mayweather. Other than that, even Pac will beat Berto and JMM, still, the question mark of Pac's greatness will remain in the head of each boxing enthusiast most especially to non Pacfans. You may not agree but that is the only best way to weigh the two (Pac-Floyd) if they really deserve the ranking of all time greats.

The amount of feuds between TOP rank and GBP started to reach the tip when Pac and Mayweather fight negotiation end up failure. After Pac-DLH fight, next Hatton, Cotto and the rest were all in-house Top Rank fighters. Uncle Bob starts raping the boxing match ups. If only and only Pac-Floyd fight had happened, we dont need these jackpot sweepstakes catchers (Margarito, Clottey, JMM, Berto, Mosley etc.) for Pac to face and prove his status as PFP king.

Now, Pac from legacy seeker, took a left-turn to business wise boxing. The guy needs to invest for future senatorial and a possible presidential race. That means more millions. If you notice, Pac showed signs of an early retirement after Clottey fight but when he won the congressional seat, a big changed of story. And he announced for another 3 years in boxing. Simple to understand, from Pac-Clottey, Pac-Marga and now Pac-Mosley, money wise boxing and winning streak is tack-in.

And maybe after Mosley, expect much worst opposition.

Well, I can sense that next in line is JMM.

[ReUterZ]

This is a Timeline of TEAM PAC & TOP RANK comments directly after the Miguel Cotto fight in 2009
December 11:

Freddie Roach: I have no problem with the testing whatsoever. They can do whatever (Keyword: Whatever) kind of drug testing that they want.

December 14:

Alex Ariza: I am the one in charge, I am the one responsible for what Manny takes. He has no idea what he takes.


December 22:

Early today Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, was contacted by Top Rank President Todd duBoef, who informed Schaefer that Pacquiao would not agree to have his blood taken within 30-days of the bout based on the fighter’s superstition of testing so close to a fight.

Richard Schaefer: Todd told me that Pacquiao has difficulty with taking blood and doesn’t want to do it so close to the fight. He, Pacquiao, would only agree to have blood drawn before the kick-off press conference and after the fight.

In that same day,

Freddie Roach: A urine test is just as qualified as a blood test. [Human growth hormone] is not detected by blood or urine.”

How is HGH test done?

More than one blood sample must be taken on different days, due to rapid changing levels of growth hormone. A test measuring IGF-1 levels may be taken in conjunction, as its levels change much slower. Before blood is drawn, the administering health professional should be informed of any disorders or medication being taken which can lead to bleeding at the site of the puncture.



December 23:

Bob Arum: Manny says that taking blood from him really weakens him. And he doesn't want to do it when he's in training, but he'll do it prior to going into training, and after the fight. Every major doctor will tell you that blood testing shows absolutely nothing.

Freddie Roach: For the record, Pacquiao (Remember, he said Pacquiao) is willing to have his blood drawn before he starts training and after the fight to be tested for steroids and performance enhancing drugs. It’s not like Pacquiao is saying no to drugs.


December 24:

Arum: This kid has a phobia for getting his blood drawn.

December 25:

Manny Pacquiao plans to sue Floyd Mayweather, the American's father and Golden Boy Promotions in the next few days following a row over doping procedures, the Filipino world champion said in a statement on Friday.

NYDailyNews. Tim Smith,

This isn't some issue that just came about. It has been a part of the contract negotiations for weeks. According to a source familiar with the talks, Pacquiao's representatives asked what penalties Pacquiao would face if he tested dirty, and also if a dirty test result could be kept secret so that the integrity of the fight wouldn't be ruined in the public eye.


December 26:

Manny Pacquiao: I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the Press Release. I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room. I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight. The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight.

December 28

Manny Pacquiao: I do not have anything to prove (to them) and hopefully, they would not succeed in destroying my image and the sport of boxing in the way they want it done. They want to dictate and step on the authority of the organizations including the Nevada State Athletic Commission. I am not guilty and I don’t have to prove anything because I have passed all tests in all my previous fights. I will all just see you in court.

December 30:

Alex Ariza: He’s willing to give the blood tests – just not two or three days before, for understable reasons.


David Tyler interviews Freddie Roach.

Freddie Roach: HGH cannot be detected by blood, saliva, or urine. The doctors I've talked to said that HGH and any growth harmone cannot be detected by any test.

David Tyler: Fred, I have a graduate's degree in Biochemistry and 30 years experience in developing blood chemistry tests.....I'll leave it alone, let's move foward.

Freddie Roach: No wait, you can't tell me that there is a test that can detect HGH or growth harmones.

David Tyler: Fred, I'm not here to make you mad.

Freddie Roach: I'm not mad, I'm telling you that you are wrong if you think there is a test for HGH.

David Tyler: Ok Fred, so you are saying that HGH cannot be detected by a blood test?

Freddie Roach: Absolutely, 100%, NO! Saliva, blood, or urine.






So, I guess this was all Floyd Sr.'s fault right? I think not.

Men Lie, Women Lie, Quotations don't.

Note: Notice how Roach/ Arum are degrading blood testing in general.

As much as I like Pac, during that time I was disappointed with the mess of different singing tune of each Pac's team. Floyd Sr., was quite successful with his first base accusation.

As time passes by, the Mayweathers suddenly accused Pac as A-side meth user. Credibility was gone. And then, Mayweather-Mosley random OST shocked me with the 18 day cut off.

It is not Floyd Sr's fault, it was Hatton's fault actually. If only Hatton fought Pac in a competitive passion and follow Floyd Sr's instructions then he will not come up with this enhancement drug idea.

[EAAE]

I like your stand.

DLH sacrificed to go down at welter for Pac mainly because the truth hurts if he will fight top calibers at middleweight..... DLH has the edge of speed but he dont have anymore the power to hurt and compete with a middleweight class fighter. One, he avoided Margarito's prime during that time.

See.... Pac's legacy will be sealed and proven only if the opposition is Mayweather. Other than that, even Pac will beat Berto and JMM, still, the question mark of Pac's greatness will remain in the head of each boxing enthusiast most especially to non Pacfans. You may not agree but that is the only best way to weigh the two (Pac-Floyd) if they really deserve the ranking of all time greats.

The amount of feuds between TOP rank and GBP started to reach the tip when Pac and Mayweather fight negotiation end up failure. After Pac-DLH fight, next Hatton, Cotto and the rest were all in-house Top Rank fighters. Uncle Bob starts raping the boxing match ups. If only and only Pac-Floyd fight had happened, we dont need these jackpot sweepstakes catchers (Margarito, Clottey, JMM, Berto, Mosley etc.) for Pac to face and prove his status as PFP king.

Now, Pac from legacy seeker, took a left-turn to business wise boxing. The guy needs to invest for future senatorial and a possible presidential race. That means more millions. If you notice, Pac showed signs of an early retirement after Clottey fight but when he won the congressional seat, a big changed of story. And he announced for another 3 years in boxing. Simple to understand, from Pac-Clottey, Pac-Marga and now Pac-Mosley, money wise boxing and winning streak is tack-in.

And maybe after Mosley, expect much worst opposition.

Well, I can sense that next in line is JMM.

I agree completely about Oscar, in my Opinion he is very overrated, no disrespect to him, i think he was a good fighter but never beat an elite fighter in their prime,lost to Bernard,Pac,Mayweather,Mosley twice,Trinidad, barely sc****d through Sturm, most notable win was a hard fought win over Fernando Vargas, i know he beat some other good names but they were past their prime.

Honestly i cannot disagree with you, it is unfortunate that the business side should play the main role but i cant argue with someone lookin after their interest after retirement, especially politics as Pacquiao is doing, im speaking purely from a boxing fans perspective, and really feel robbed as a true boxing fan not to witness Pacquiao-Mayweather. Imagine Leonard Hearns Hagler Duran never fought each other, it wouldnt be right.

[fightingfigs]

Yeah maybe if this was 2002. Mosley's going to twitch is way to a loss just like against Mayweather.

Mosley has no legs, Mayweather exposed that. I dont see how a 40 year old mosley can hang with Pacuiao in his prime. Im sorry Sr the only chance Mosley has is a lucky body shot

[norway]

Pac is not even that good. All he has beaten are some washed up Floyd victims and Shane is 10 times better boxer than he is. Even at 40 Shane should easily take care of the the ****** Pac.

[DeadScared]

Wise words from another moron trainer.