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    #71
    People be ready for what Top Pranks is bringing in 2011.

    Pacquiao/Mosley, then Cotto/Mayorga...lol...what a ****ing Joke!!! This is coming from a Cotto fan!!! Bob Arum single handling is killing what boxing is all about!!! Best fighting the best at their best!!!

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      #72
      Originally posted by gonhlywd View Post
      2010 - Manny Pacquiao v Antonio Margarito

      2010 - Kelly Pavlik v Julio Chavez Jr. (Fight was cancelled due to Pavlik's unfortunate addiction to alcohol, for which he is currently in treatment)

      2010 - Miguel Cotto v Yuri Foreman

      2009 - Miguel Cotto v Manny Pacquiao

      2009 - Miguel Cotto v Joshua Clottey

      2008 - Miguel Cotto v Antonio Margarito

      2008 - Manny Pacquiao v Joshua Clottey

      2008 - Miguel Cotto v Alfonso Gomez

      2008 - Manny Pacquiao v David Diaz

      1999 - Arum previously denies, but later admits (under oath) during a Federal racketeering trial that he bribed the International Boxing Federation President by paying him $100,000 in order to get the IBF to sanction a George Foreman fight.

      1995 - Arum is penalized $125,000 by the Nevada State Athletic Commission for a bribe to get one of his fighters a higher ranking

      ** It must be noted that the other promoters identified in the Federal sting were New Jersey based promoter Dino Duva, who admitted paying a $25,000 bribe, promoter Cedric Kushner admitted paying $100,000 in bribes and Promoter Don King who was on video tape "regularly" paying for rankings for his fighters.

      As the former Harvard Law Student and Federal prosecutor would do in trying to make a case, I am trying to establish a pattern. The pattern is that Bob Arum has been and continues to keep his fighters fighting "in-house," as other promoters call him, "In-House Bob." Quite fitting I believe. The other is to establish the corrupt nature of the promoter, specifically for this article, Bob Arum.
      Bob Arum takes 26% of Manny's and other fighters' purse and as long as Manny and other Top Rank fighters continue to fight Top Rank fighters, Bob will continue to take in upwards up 52% of the total fight purse.
      While this may sound like good business to some of you, the fact that there are very good candidates in other promotional companies that would give Manny Pacquiao and other Top Rank belt holders a very good fight, and would actually display some lateral movement, probably scares old Bob.
      I for one believe that Andre Berto should be the fighter who is next in line for Manny. (I obviously would like to see the fight that the rest of the world would like to see, but let's put that debate aside for now). However, after watching Berto's last performance, I'm sure Bob does not want to take that chance. This is the same reason that Bob recently turned down $5 million for a Sergio Martinez v Miguel Cotto match. Bob knows that Miguel would lose his WBA belt and would rather match him up with another Top Rank fighter so as to pad his pockets more and keep a belt-holder in the stable, regardless of the outcome. It's a win-win for Bob, but nothing but a losing scenario for fight fans. And now with Shane Mosley all but signed to Top Rank, maybe just for a Pacquiao fight, Manny will surely fight another Top Rank fighter.
      The below is a recent quote from Bob regarding the backlash from fans and bloggers regarding a match-up between Manny Pacquiao and Shane Mosley...

      "I don't care. I don't care what the so-called boxing fans and bloggers have to say. I really don't."

      You don't care? You don't care about the people that spend their hard-earned money, especially in these historically bad economic times? Who do you think pays to watch your fights?

      The below quote is Bob's take on HBO and Showtime putting together fights on their own. (only because Arum proposed fights that neither company wanted to put up money for, I'm guessing they were all Top Rank fighters if I follow history)

      "Instead of working with promoters, like they have done in the past, they have become promoters themselves. They make the fights just like promoters and pay fighters", Arum said. "It's their money and they can do what they want, but Don King doesn't have to go along with it and neither do I. King and I can get along without HBO or Showtime."

      To which I say good luck you selfish prick.

      Last but not least is my favorite Bob Arum quote...

      "I was lying yesterday. Today I am telling the truth."

      Bob Arum, YOU are what is ruining this sport. The prevention of the best fighters fighting the best opposition will continue to hinder the sport and prevent it from reaching it's potential as it has previously in decades past.
      You are, and have been ruining the sport I love and kept me out of trouble as a youth. I truly believe that if it was not for the sport of boxing and my local PAL, I would not have graduated college with two degrees, much less graduated from High School. This is why I am so boisterous about this topic, because I see the problem with the sport that helped me and so many others through adolescence in **** neighborhoods, yet nothing seems to be done about it. So I am calling for a boycott of Top Rank Promotions. If we cannot have a single commission in charge, then we must weed out what is wrong with the sport and start with the promoters who refuse to "not care" what the people who pay them want.
      The fighter is the only one in the ring taking the beating. There is no pension, no medical insurance and no one to give any legal advise. In fact, some promoters actually prohibit fighters from seeking outside, independent legal opinions. So again, if we cannot have a single commission, then we must weed out the corrupt promoter and start at the "Top."
      Boycott Top Rank.
      You went hard on this one(lol),I never really liked TR but here I can't fault umm..Who else is there really for Pac to fight..Berto or JMM both are trash fights at 147lb imo..JMM looked really bad at the weight,and who the hell has Berto fought??

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        #73
        This is sickening....like really..

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          #74
          Originally posted by romebyko View Post
          I never said anything about a dry mouth was the reason for anything..You wanted to act like May fought the same Mosley Marga's fought but he did'int he fought an over trained and blood drained opponent so why hate on Pac??Because you like him better... TBH I like umm both and really want to see umm fight..But don't get it twisted,May fought a ring rust and over trained Sugar and damn two week cut is a lie they tested Shane before he left for Vegas..We all seen right here on Bscene when both fighters arrived in Vegas it don't take two weeks to get to Vegas from Cali bro stop it..I'll give it two days at best..
          LOL. Dont know where u get that from
          Last edited by Bigchill79; 12-21-2010, 11:11 PM.

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            #75
            Originally posted by romebyko View Post
            Guess you wanted to see Berto in there huh..Or how about a fat ass JMM lol..Pac would have lost no matter who he would have fought tbh,unless it was Mayweather..
            Damn right I do.
            Mosley is the worst of his three options. The man couldn't even handle Mora.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Bigchill79 View Post
              LOL. I think u should be tested
              I get tested on the reg LMAO...

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                #77
                Originally posted by k1t3 View Post
                Damn right I do.
                Mosley is the worst of his three options. The man couldn't even handle Mora.
                Mosley would **** can both Marquez and Berto..Berto never really wanted to fight Mosley..Kats fought and the man Bro died and Berto's sec cuz was wounded and he could'int fight my ass..JMM would KO'd by Mosley at 147lb so stop please try again..

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                  #78
                  [QUOTE=gnote650;9833520]
                  Originally posted by mathed View Post
                  There is only like one or 2 guys that Pac can fight that will really help his resume at this point besides Floyd. Mosley is a good name and if you hate Pac for facing him, then you also have to hate Floyd too. It'll do good numbers, despite the fact that many people don't want it to. Probably 1.2-1.4 million buys.

                  I feel bad for Mosley because I honestly feel that he will quit in there against Pac. I hate to see that happen to him but he is going to get punished badly. Mosley will retire after this loss for sure because it will be a brutal, one-sided beatdown.[/QUOT

                  Ur tripping Marquez vs. Pacduckiao would've make 1.5-2.0 million buys with it being cinco de mayo weekend Vegas would've crazy that weekend. It could've even beat the record Mayweather vs. De la Hoya of 2 million buys. But noooo they go for the weakest fighter to protect Pacduckiao this fight is a f@cking joke just like Pacduckiao is.
                  No matter how ya slice it Mosley is the bigger name,meaning more MONEY..

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by romebyko View Post
                    I never said anything about a dry mouth was the reason for anything..You wanted to act like May fought the same Mosley Marga's fought but he did'int he fought an over trained and blood drained opponent so why hate on Pac??Because you like him better..Listen son if you ever see me post I don't get into the politics with May and Pac.. TBH I like umm both and really want to see umm fight..But don't get it twisted,May fought a ring rust and over trained Sugar and damn two week cut is a lie they tested Shane before he left for Vegas..We all seen right here on Bscene when both fighters arrived in Vegas it don't take two weeks to get to Vegas from Cali bro stop it..I'll give it two days at best..
                    How in one breath u discredit the Shane Floyd fought, then champion this fight? If Floyd fought a ring rusted, blood drained (this statement really cracks me up) two training camp having Mosley, what version is Pac fighting? And telling by your posts, your comprehension skills are lacking. Mosley was asked to give an urine test before they left Big Bear. He even commented that he'd rather give blood because he would have a hard time having to piss. I never tried to paint you as a fan of either one, but if u can claim Floyd fought a lesser version of Shane and then in the same breath act like this fight is ok with u....its pretty sure which side of the fence u sit on.

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                      #80
                      If only Valero's still alive he may have been the opponent for Manny right now. It's more interesting than Pac fighting Mosley, JMM, or Berto. IMO.

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