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    #21
    Originally posted by John Locke View Post
    I'm not a Klit hater, I actually respect Wlad, and his dominance of opponents, the mere fact that you jump on the accusation we degrade his opposition to me, screams, guilt and paranoia.

    We can't deny that Wlad and Vitali have dominated 90% of their opponents, but on the other hand to be fair, YOU can't deny the fact that their opponents have been lacklustre in comparison to other heavyweight generations............. Fair to say? Or not?.........................
    NOT fair to say, once again, another way to discredit Wlad - should we talk about Byrd, Mercer, Schulz, Botha, Hide, McCline, Jefferson, Barrett, etc. again?

    Or perhaps undefeated world champs and top contenders and Olympic medalists Ibragimov, Chagaev, Brock, Peter?

    Please man, how are you gonna compare generations? It's all subjective. Like Ali didn't have his share of questionable wins or blow outs against questionable opposition (lost to a LHW with 8 fights, was fighting guys as light as 177). Or Tyson, whos claim to fame is beating an old past-it LHW and then loosing 6 times, including to guys like Buster and McBride. What about Lewis and the Rahman and crackhead McCall losses? The way you all denigrate the Klitschko opposition, can be done with any champ in history.

    But don't worry, the Klitschkos will keep winning and even the haters will have no choice but to admit their GOAT status.

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      #22
      first of all you need some big balls.

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        #23
        For short HW, you need the adopt the bob and weave tactics to get past their jab and work the body and come up top.

        Tall HW 6'6 and up need to have a good jab, and decent power. A good jab from a tall HW throws them off their gameplan, Lewis/Klitschko.

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          #24
          Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp View Post
          NOT fair to say, once again, another way to discredit Wlad - should we talk about Byrd, Mercer, Schulz, Botha, Hide, McCline, Jefferson, Barrett, etc. again?

          Or perhaps undefeated world champs and top contenders and Olympic medalists Ibragimov, Chagaev, Brock, Peter?

          Please man, how are you gonna compare generations? It's all subjective. Like Ali didn't have his share of questionable wins or blow outs against questionable opposition (lost to a LHW with 8 fights, was fighting guys as light as 177). Or Tyson, whos claim to fame is beating an old past-it LHW and then loosing 6 times, including to guys like Buster and McBride. What about Lewis and the Rahman and crackhead McCall losses? The way you all denigrate the Klitschko opposition, can be done with any champ in history.

          But don't worry, the Klitschkos will keep winning and even the haters will have no choice but to admit their GOAT status.
          All 'B' rate (if that) contenders. Fact.

          Again, ''You all" I am not putting Wlad down, just his quality of opponents.

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            #25
            Originally posted by John Locke View Post
            All 'B' rate (if that) contenders. Fact.

            Again, ''You all" I am not putting Wlad down, just his quality of opponents.
            So Byrd, who beat Vitaly and Holyfield and made Lewis drop his belt in the trash is now "B" rate....LOL ok

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