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    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
    No he is not a dirty fighter. Nehomar Cermeno now that is a dirty fighter, Eusebio Pedroza was a dirty fighter. Ward is rough fighter on the inside but not dirty.

    To act like he needs help from the refs or whatever to win is ridiculous.

    Like I said never once seen a Ward fight where I felt he lost or deserve to lose.
    When you continue to do something illegal as an integrated part of your style then you are a dirty fighter IMO. You might disagree although I personally cannot see you have a case.

    You are right in saying that we havent seen a fight where he deserved to lose, but neither have we seen a fight where the referee calls him on the fouling. If he handles that well then we can talk.

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      Originally posted by SouthpawSwagger View Post
      He'll still beat Kessler in Copenhagen.
      No he wont.

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        Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
        Ward is a dirty fighter. A referee biased against him or even a netral referee will unphaze him. You see the leading with head bit and the holding is integrated in Wards style and if he doesn't get preferential treatment we will get the chance to see what he is really made of.


        And I have seen plenty of instances where cautions would be in order and also instances where he should have had a points deduction.
        in the bika fight ward did some early complaining and bika wasn't able to fight his fight all night...on the other hand, ward was able to freely lead with his head and headbutt all fight...even opened a gash on bika...kessler complained about the same thing

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          Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
          I think he tweeted that he was back in the gym some time ago.

          I wonder if Showtime fines his pockets dry for breach of conract?
          Why cant he fight if he's back in the gym? Am sure he can in the next 4 months or so. Showtime should make sure he isnt fighting outside of the showtime until the tourney is over.

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            Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
            No he wont.
            Make a case for Kessler winning. Don't include refs and judging and all that just a fight analysis.

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              Originally posted by Ray* View Post
              Got to laugh at the "Son of Bernard"
              that was a good one....lol

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                Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                No he wont.
                I would also like to see Ward fight outside of his hometown, He does lead with his head but i wouldnt call him "Dirty"...

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                  Would be an interesting and very technical fight...I got my money on the SOG though...

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                    Originally posted by SouthpawSwagger View Post
                    Make a case for Kessler winning. Don't include refs and judging and all that just a fight analysis.
                    If Kessler gets more than 2 weeks of training. Has 20/20 vision and doesnt get fouled unpunished he'll win. Kessler complained to his corner that he couldnt see from the third or fourth round due to those butts.

                    Believe me these points had an impact on his performance. And then you have Ward facing a hostile crowd nine timezones away. Not easy.

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                      Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                      I would also like to see Ward fight outside of his hometown, He does lead with his head but i wouldnt call him "Dirty"...
                      i think the consensus is ward uses dirty tactics and really doesn't get reprimanded enough by the oakland refs...thats why a lot of people want to see him fight outside of oakland...minus his personal officiating entourage of course

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