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    #21
    Martinez is gonna be in a catchweight....I'd rather see Pac with BERTO at 147 for a belt with a young undefeated AA.

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      #22
      Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
      martinez would weigh 170+ in the ring and pac would be around 148 pounds. that's ******.
      Margarito did and he got curbstomped.

      If the people your own size don't offer any challenge, then fight bigger people. That's the situation Pacquiao is in right now. He has more or less proven himself the supreme welterweight (with the possible exception of Floyd, but let's not get into that) so sticking around mopping up the left overs is pretty redundant. I want to see him face someone who can possibly beat him.

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        #23
        I have Martinez winning against him, he is a skilled 5'10'' fighter and will come in above middleweight. He ain't Margarito with the footwork of a half year amateur experience footwork. Roach will insist on a unhealthy unreal catchweight.
        Moneywise Mosley is the best option, but Berto/Alexander/Bradley will do more for his legacy.

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          #24
          Originally posted by S.G. View Post
          Are you arguing that it's not the easiest fight for Pacquiao or that it's not the best fight for Pacquiao? He stands more to gain from fighting Martinez than the other three/four combined.

          We obviously have a difference in opinion on Pacquiao's abilities. In my mind he stands a perfectly reasonable chance of beating Martinez, which I'm sure the betting odds would reflect were it signed. It's not guaranteed, like four of his last six fights have been, but that's what we want, right? Let's see Pacquiao really earn that 8th weight division.

          Do you seriously think Bradley/Alexander (who Pacquiao would likely drag up to 147lbs) stand a snowball's chance in hell of survivng past round five, let alone winning?
          I am arguing that Martinez is not his best option because he a slim to no chance of winning at 154+. The only the gains about fighting Martinez is the respect of fighting him. But, that is the best options for the fans, Pac fans, and Pac critics. But, not for Pac himself.

          Pac-Bradley is a great option at 140. However, even if it is at 147 I give Bradley a better chance in beating Pac, then I do Pac in beating Martinez at 154+.

          Fact is Martinez is too talented, too big, and just too good. I don't mind Pac being in a fight where there is a good chance of him losing. A fight against Floyd is a fight that pac could lose but also could win. Martinez he just won't be able to win unless he really drains him in a very low catch-weight.

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            #25
            i would rather see pac vs martinez, rather than pac vs mosley, rather than the bradley or the best 140 pounder.

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              #26
              Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
              I am arguing that Martinez is not his best option because he a slim to no chance of winning at 154+. The only the gains about fighting Martinez is the respect of fighting him. But, that is the best options for the fans, Pac fans, and Pac critics. But, not for Pac himself.

              Pac-Bradley is a great option at 140. However, even if it is at 147 I give Bradley a better chance in beating Pac, then I do Pac in beating Martinez at 154+.

              Fact is Martinez is too talented, too big, and just too good. I don't mind Pac being in a fight where there is a good chance of him losing. A fight against Floyd is a fight that pac could lose but also could win. Martinez he just won't be able to win unless he really drains him in a very low catch-weight.
              Well this clearly just boils down to a difference in opinion then. I see the Martinez fight as a pick 'em, maybe slightly leaning towards Pacquiao. Bradley would get iced so bad it wouldn't even be funny. We'd just be left scratching our heads and mourning an ended career again like we did after the Hatton fight.

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                #27
                Originally posted by S.G. View Post
                The Martinez fight. There's no two ways about it.

                Berto, Mosley and Bradley/Alexander are all easy wins for Pacquiao. Martinez actually stands a chance of winning.
                You are giving pac too much credit there.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  It's Mayweather or bust. I bet they make Bradley come to 147 even though Pac is really a lightweight
                  Bradley would actually love that.
                  Fight night bradley shoots up to 150+ at jww.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by S.G. View Post
                    Are you arguing that it's not the best fight for Pacquiao or that it's not the easiest fight for Pacquiao? He stands more to gain from fighting Martinez than the other three/four combined.

                    We obviously have a difference in opinion on Pacquiao's abilities. In my mind he stands a perfectly reasonable chance of beating Martinez, which I'm sure the betting odds would reflect were it signed. It's not guaranteed, like four of his last six fights have been, but that's what we want, right? Let's see Pacquiao really earn that 8th weight division.

                    Do you seriously think Bradley/Alexander (who Pacquiao would likely drag up to 147lbs) stand a snowball's chance in hell of surviving past round five, let alone winning?
                    That is funny. Those 2 black dudes you mentioned are heavier than pac on fight night.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                      I am arguing that Martinez is not his best option because he a slim to no chance of winning at 154+. The only the gains about fighting Martinez is the respect of fighting him. But, that is the best options for the fans, Pac fans, and Pac critics. But, not for Pac himself.

                      Pac-Bradley is a great option at 140. However, even if it is at 147 I give Bradley a better chance in beating Pac, then I do Pac in beating Martinez at 154+.

                      Fact is Martinez is too talented, too big, and just too good. I don't mind Pac being in a fight where there is a good chance of him losing. A fight against Floyd is a fight that pac could lose but also could win. Martinez he just won't be able to win unless he really drains him in a very low catch-weight.
                      Take away the "too big" and the other attributes you mentioned are not gonna stand true against pac.
                      If they were the same size ...

                      Having said that ... at this point, what matters to arum and team pac is what opponent can generate the most money.

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